⏬ Which monsters need a Nerf?

It seems like you all think that free mythics and f2p are the same. This is false. The only free mythic is chronozilion, but there are f2p mythics because they are in the standard of f2p players.

Open your eyes wide, VCK just confirmed that there are indeed F2P Mythics.
And no!! brida is not a mythics f2p

Wait… You are being sarcastic, right?

Tell us you are gullible without telling us you are gullible :joy:

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Leave exu alone. He don’t understand and unknown comes to defend him., maybe these 3/4 people have secret group to defend themselves.

Cmon now, stop the constant ragebaiting :moai:

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@Dev_VKC Can you please say clearly that there are no “F2P myths” other than Chronozillion, in a way that these guys understand it so we can put a stop to these ridiculous discussions once and for all?

U can’t Stop our voice. If u do nobody will tell their concern. Right to freedom.

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vck has already spoken, stay calm. If it’s so ridiculous, why are you getting involved? It’s just a “delusion of some players” according to you. But you seem to take it so much to heart when someone says it.

As I am in forum I can say from experience when they can’t win the debate, they just accused u being combative in dms. So better leave the topic, few people gangup to opress the weak ones.nothing new.

Our voice cant be stopped

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The issue here is that the terms F2P and P2W can be very triggering, often starting heated debate or dividing people. For all the years moderating the forum, it’s been important to stop people from making discussions revolve around these terms. It makes the forum a nicer place for everyone.

Here, people have been very arbitrarily labelling mythics as F2P or not. Even by their own classification, it depends greatly on when people started playing and such. For example, as someone who was playing from before mythics even released I could argue that the original 5 standard pool mythics are F2P because everyone playing from my time likely has most or all of them awakened for free. That would seem ridiculous to anyone who started in the last couple of years.

So basically it’s pointless labelling that’s only going to make discussions worse here. That’s the main reason why moderators get involved and try to say it should stop.

Exu was pointing out how people use this arbitrary labelling in ways that annoys people. I.e. As justification for their viewpoints and claiming it as unbiased. However, this goes beyond all that. Any F2P vs P2W type talk should not have a place in topics it’s not very clearly relevant.

So please stop that type of labelling and @Myst you were purposefully trying to wind up Exu so if you want win a debate while dodging a moderator DM then you need to change your debate style.

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What I’d strongly support is people changing
“F2P mythic” → “Easily accessible mythic”

Even that rephrasing helps a lot, making it less triggering and much clearer what you’re describing.

There’s a genuine use case for talking about mythics in this way. We’ve seen it with mythics at the anniversary as well as mythics very strong in their second form being “easily accessible” and therefore having a large impact on the meta and being hotly debated… like we’re seeing with Alyce right now. The distinction is important because it sometimes highlights that the monster may not be inherently broken, instead just being very common and people either haven’t adapted yet or the counterplay isn’t accessible enough that’s it’s able to run rampant.

There is no problem with these words “p2w” and “f2p”. It is the people of this community who have decreed that they are “unhealthy” for I don’t know what absurd reasons. This distinction has always existed and it is not going to change. If people here feel insulted by that, that is their problem; it is rather honorific.

lmao. why am I going to bother writing “easily accessible myths” when I can simply write “f2p myths”? I save the energy of my fingers :slightly_smiling_face: and moreover where is the legendary freedom of expression in this forum is so proud if I cannot write what I want which is neither an offense nor an attack

That’s the point, it’s not going to change and it’s the way things are so we have to make sure people take that into account when they communicate. It would be lovely if these terms didn’t trigger people but they do and people also like to use them in ways to purposefully antagonise.

By “freedom of expression” what you’re actually saying here is “freedom to antagonise and insult”. Be a better person and think about the bigger picture. You clearly understand things so saying it takes the energy of your fingers to type a longer phrase is 100% pure stubbornness.

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I think this one word just describes Cesar the best.

Anyway I wanted to also point out that labelling something like charybdia as F2P mythic could confuse players who started neo after it’s release, as it can’t be applied to them at all.

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I stand by what i said a few days ago, the only mythic thats equally accsessible to all players new and old is chronozillion,

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@Killerdog @Coltraz @Unown
I appreciate that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I’d like to clarify something respectfully — just because I stand my ground or share a different viewpoint doesn’t mean I’m being stubborn or combative. In Discord, where communication is more direct and open, I’ve never faced such remarks, which makes me think this might be a misunderstanding or misjudgment here on the forum. I’m always open to discussion, but let’s keep things fair and not label people without knowing their intent or tone properly.

I just think it’s not a right place for me and for kingston. You always accuse of being combative but I just share my thought most of the time. I just can’t express in english as it’s not my mother tongue. But yeah you people are very rude, as I already mentioned we are in discord(neo) ,people there are really good. Even in other games community never seen such a rude approach from a mod especially exu followed by kd.

It’s always- I am right, you are combative and disrespectful.
I just wanted a answer why mythic like chary nophiam gets nerfed straight away but why don’t the broken mons gets buffed instead. Albion,pandora,astra etc. but who knew this will lead to a huge argument instead of getting straight ans.

When you do comments like this in a public forum (meant for discussions) after someone challenges your views. Its nothing but stubborness.

bruh :rofl:

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