⏬ Which monsters need a Nerf?

I have a nerf idea for Cyclophina without changing any of her moves or TUs (other than Even Onslaught)

Every single one of her moves, other than her SS, would require her to use Even onslaught after using one of her 3 skills before attempting to use any other move (again except SS).

So it would go like this:
First move SE 85TU then has to use EO (here the devs could buff it to either 85-102TU at 9 pots) then she can use one of the three skills again.

so essentially it would be every 170-187 seconds Square Erase sweeping (technically 2 kills would be 255-272 seconds), 144-161 Prime Rampage sweeping, and 127-144 Square Erase sweeping. Again SS would not be force you to use EO.

I could also see EO either get better healing power or maybe just a little lower TU.

@Dev_VKC hmm? What do you think, sir Fungi?

You wanna add more math to already complicated math monster!!?? :upside_down_face::face_with_raised_eyebrow:

She would be more complicated if they removed shiny effects from her skills and people would actually have to think about her moves. If they used the wrong one it should do 0 damage.

Tbh that wouldn’t change much if you just write down the numbers you need to remember. What is already challenging about her is thinking ahead and either not sweeping too fast or giving useless monsters an opponent controls a turn so they can think they are doing something but in reality they are giving you the opportunity to start sweeping with her.

I think she doesn’t need any nerf because if user knows math he can easily force her to use even onslaught .
For average I think everyone will take just 15 sec to calculate the monsters in match.
I personally counter her by this method only🙂

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I agree but I already can see the nerf coming because of the reaction of the dev and player base + the pvp data. She is a good unit. She is basicly how you would have design legendaries to make them usuable in 2024 or else they are stuck in the past like padrinorca.

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Sadly yes😞
I actually own her and use with deus

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She’s fine. We encourage doing math. Words from Dev_VKC

I’m really annoyed by what I see in this thread. I don’t hear anyone asking for a nerf for Soral who appears in 95% of PvP, or for Tengoku who I consider one of the strongest mythics and who many prefer to ignore and many abusive mythics that we find in the game. Aaaa, it’s true, since mythics cost money they can’t be touched and since legendaries don’t then they can be nerfed. I don’t know how long we haven’t seen a mythic nerfed in this game, it’s one buff after another, and the unfortunate legendaries having cost increases and nerfs, until when! We all have the right to have something worthwhile, not just p2w.

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But Soral was already nerf as for Tenguko i think her shapeshift should have a limit

Tengoku is strong mythic, she’s not broken. How can we ask for everything nerf? Just use stun counter.

Well yes it is. A few years ago Voidres’ secret ability did something very similar to what Tengoku does and they nerfed it. Tengoku comes in, stuns you and steals whatever monster he wants and you play dumb and he stuns you again at the end of the game. I’m not asking for any nerfs, I’m just saying leave legendaries alone. We also need good legendaries that can fight mythics.

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In the end it just Missplay we Made. And there is no way we want nerf Monster bcoz our Missplay. It should be normal for old players like you to bring several protection stuns every 5-6 monsters.

that Shapeshifting move it just shows us a lot of players can’t even handle their own monsters :sweat_smile:

Oh what’s the Voidress ss does back then? When I play Neo the Voidress ss still Eclipse. maybe what you mean is Angelion😂

And eclipse damage was very low.

I really don’t know how long you’ve been in the game. Voidres’ eclipse would steal the monster he did it to. Apparently they thought it was too “broken” and nerfed the ability. And besides, I don’t even have Angelion, I have terrible luck catching him.

Really ? I play Neo monster since 2020 before anniversary.

This never happened. It’s always been a catapult which negates the revenge. The only change that happened to it since release is getting a damage buff (after mythics became common and HP boost either existed already or was about to come out - it didn’t do enough to reliably kill these).

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But how is this possible? Please, nobody here remembers when Voidres passed the monster that eclipsed him to the other team.

I have been playing since before mythics or even Oakthulhu was released. Voidress never had that ability from my memory. I think you are confusing her with Sacrumega

Imagine. ECLIPSE SNATCH

Does exactly the same thing as soul snatch but with damage numbers for style