Which monsters need a Nerf?

That would not change much. Mythics like Soral or Shi Na are not untargetable since the start of the battle (unless you really want to run Shi Na + Ying in the frontline at her crazy speed) and it does not last for the entire match like it does with ED spam and even if you manage to kill all of the EDs it can spawn 6 more right after. This entire moveset is completely idiotic and I don’t know who let it go into the game.

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I blame @Dev_BRD

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I just got both Cyclophina and Deus so everyone that was defending how balanced and unproblematic she is will hopefully have a great time in the arena starting tomorrow.

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So you were crying about her because you didn’t have her before then? Interesting…

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Let’s not start again please. We all know Cyclophina is one of the strongest monsters in the game right now, can’t deny that. It’s normal to have conversation about it.

Idk about strongest

But she is probably one of the easiest to just slot into a team and BAM she gonna do the work

Well, if it’s normal to have a conversation about her why can’t I ask him if he only wanted the nerf because he didn’t have her? As far as I can tell most people asking for her nerf didn’t have her and yet were claiming that it was incredibly easy to run her and manipulate the numbers.
As much as I agree that she is a strong monster, there is a difference between being powerful and broken. Very often you land on even onslaught and she is dead weight, people claiming it isn’t don’t run her. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy because in my opinion is an unwarranted nerf where people are using arguments that do not accurately reflect the reality because they don’t have experience running the monster. Feel free to cry about her, but then bring out actual facts.
Look at the top players, how many are actually running Cyclophina as a viable FL? If she is so OP, how come it’s not more widely used? Unless you know every entrance, every revenge, every number altering move in the entire game and are playing against AI, you simply can’t easily manipulate numbers like that.

One of the strongest legendaries, definitely. One of the strongest, if not the strongest closer, for sure. But one of the strongest monsters is indeed a massive stretch.

Yeah i can agree with that.

For refrence i have her have used her and have beanched her in most my teams lol

Idk about some heavy nerf to her but i would probably remove the void on prisem ramapage and call it a day personaly

You are gonna remove Selene, Luna or lemon from your endgame for HER? Go ahead plz

If I had a bunch of monsters with double breaking moves with a lower cost she probably wouldn’t make it on my team either, certainly nowhere else other than at the end anyway.
If you don’t have a huge mythic collection she is certainly helpful, but some people are overestimating her without having used her.

As for the revenge voids, I’m not sure, but I think she has so many of those moves because people were shoving a bunch of death revenge/cloning monsters in end game and it was really annoying to have to deal with 4 or 5 monsters with those skills. My guess is that she was released as a counter to that.

I get that i just simply prefere my old reliables like exo

As for removing the void idk about it either i havent but alot of thought into it as its really whatever to me. Its just a thoyght for the simple reason that prisem is very easy to pull of throughout a match and devs have been releasing a wierd amount of death revenge monsters lately which makes her feel alot better than she in reality is.

From 8th anniversary hardly I have seen any balanced mythic monsters.
I will not start a monster nerf conversation but just wanna say newly realesed mythics are very op which make hard for players to counter them.

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I can agree that we have had some real powerhouses released

But i dont really know how it works for smaller accounts so i cant involve myself in that aspect

I know how it works for bigger accounts like mine and adapting to new releases is just a necessity now

You’re going to cry :smiling_imp:

Many mythics have void dual break moves and other ways to nullify revenges so when you think in terms of smaller accounts, Cyclophina is a good alternative for that. That’s why I believe that even removing one of her voiding abilities will make the gap between mythic spam and smaller accounts even bigger. I understand why she might annoy some whales, specially the ones spamming revenges and revivals (which are on the rise lately), but as yourself experienced, there are mythics with much better and more reliable movesets.

I also don’t understand what devs are trying to achieve with so many boosts, revenges and revivals. Very soon you will just need to make one move and the rest of the battle with automatic happen between revenges, auto death entrances and so on.

I think more of the issue people have with her is how 4/5 moves is just a guranteed one shot/void/focus move and the only way to stop her is having full controll of the field or killing her before she makes a turn with also having a 600% defence boost

I agree that the gap between mythics and legenderies is big but at the same time math girl can be classified as a A tier mythic in todays meta which is quite busted for a legendery overall but eonarx is the same so its idk a odd situation as nobody complains about him

But like i have said before nerfs is unnecessary unless its meta warping just adapt and move on. The game is supposed to be skill based afterall

They are going on full combat mode now :joy: :joy:

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Bro to counter cyclophina in pvp just make sure you don’t have fibonaci,prime or square no. and then force her to use even onslaught😂

One thing is for sure, Cyclophina is a terrible auto battle monster.