Can we use fire again please?

Canni’s double counterstrike needs to change. It’s got mental speed and takes out two mons just for running fire?! As a result, we can’t use Fire mons in the FL anymore. It’s an entire element which is absent. It’s not too bad midgame because you have some time to prepare for it before it comes in, but in the FL it just restricts too much.

I’d like to know people’s thoughts on this. Personally I think making it single counter strike would be ok.

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Cani in fl is already over… he has to be fast, because other fire monsters re fast too (magmar, infernicorn)… that way he can counter them

Double counterstrike at 160 TU is fine.
There is other things which Cani is broken, 1-4 stars piercing + 1-4 stars empower + double goldoid entrance… This combination of things is too much. Way too much.

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Nah… he is fine… goldoid summon is just annoying, that piercing boost from low star monster is fine… sometimes he can’t tu anything

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It’s an instant double kill at almost unstoppable speed and excessive force as well. Obviously broken move. Yeah fire is screwed in the FL with Cani

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Yeah I get that it’s speed has to stay the same. No issue with that. It’s just so punishing for fire and you literally can’t do anything. Single counter strike even at 80tu (half its double counter strike) would be fine. But to lose two monsters simply on element doesn’t make sense.

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Then devs have to fix all monsters with double counterstrike … eg both angel/devil mythics

Novem with it is fine. It’s the only damage output of it and helps it cover its weakness in a link fire team.

Ah okay, on one monster it’s not okay, on other it’s okay ? That‘s totally inconsistent… adjust all or none

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Or just remove it from the game and give Novem something like link catapult.

No they don’t because they don’t have 90+ speed.

It’s the combination of high speed and double counterstrike that’s the issue. We can’t change speed without affecting Canni too much, so given it’s high speed, half the TU and make it single

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And the fact it most likely will pierce too in FL’s

They could make it Cannis SS with a 100 TU restriction but make it swift double counter strike at 50tu. Then move underdog to main moveset

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Yeah that would also work

Sounds pretty reasonable. I assume Underdog will still be a one-use move in this case.

I just got this monster not too long ago from the anniversary’s egg and now there’s been two nerf threads opened just for it :cry::cry:

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I use Dragulus in my FL so I support this.

Tbh i think cani is doodo.

And we already have double counter strike on the mythic that deals damage to grass and both the mythic ladies dark and light and the cat and the fire lady.

I dont see cani stronger then any of them and the passive requires him to play weak monsters alongside him which already balances him out.

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No he’s not stronger. Just faster :confused:

So what if cani’s punish you for having fire monster that’s how the game works, you can also say hat stealtbane punish you just for stealth or toxic killer punish you just for having poison litterally every “killer” is like that so why not remove them all if it punishes you for just having a sort of strategy .And the cani is too strong with his piercing.This is a conditional passive so you need werak mons to make it work not like one big other mon who has the same ability but no restriction(delugazar).If we add a 50Tu before using cani’s ss it will become a useless SS because anyone can just kill the weak mons before cani underdogs them or even kill cani and his SS can just be name Swift Useless.I think Cani is ok .He’s the only top monster I have for offense and I don’t go around doing threads to complain about Angelion or Bloomeluga who are too strong and they are very very Op (more than cani that’s sure).Just look at Bloomeluga it also has that double piercing move and is really hard to kill compared to Canishogun who just dies easily.Bloomeluga can easily wipe out all a team if just surrounded with GT while cani can’t he can only kill few monsters and die plus his boosted minions have a giant Tu use for AOE moves and can easily be thrown off the game with stun or sleep making them useless.

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