Team?
Robin/kong
if SS is getting a nerf then lets nerf the real Op Monsters first, raizen,geo,chrome and stag.
This is coming from a person who doesnt use SS, hates SS, has gotten recked by his stupid sleep all…
Also think about the people who has few legends and SS is their only viable front (which i know a lot), nerf him and they will probably leave
I have played since January and I can say honestly that alot of the top ended PvP players they don’t really use SS they use their own distinct tactics to best you. SS in his own right is a legendary which is different to others. Also I have been against him many times and having a SS doesn’t determine the outcome of the fight even if FL is lost to it.
I think chrome is easy enough to counter with a protector. Raizen is easy to deal with if you have leo behind a Protector, just the issue that not everyone has a leo. Geo could do with a slightly slower backstab. Stag should stay the same
yea, but they are still OP ■■■ monsters
Also i don’t really want them nerfed, i was just making a point
The issue is that these monsters can generally be classed as high tier pvp monsters in that they usually appear in high pvp ranks and have a team built around them. The reason the focus is on SS is because it has much more of an impact on the lower ranks where it’s much harder to counter, and doesn’t require a team built around it. Below 700 the meta is just revolving around him, up above 700 you barely see any SS because you have monsters like raizen and geo that can be far better provided you have the right team around them. I’ve seen so many teams in low pvp that have SS shoved in the front with 3 random monsters because it decides games by itself.
I’m not saying that geo stag etc aren’t overpowered. I’m saying that the issue is the meta bottlenecking around SS, something that tends to happen in lower ranks because up higher people have more options to deal with things like chromera
Hes fine buck hes a rng and tbh hes healthy for the game because he makes the game a rock paper scissors.
1.razien teams > bane tt teams
2.(geo or zib into bane) + tt > ss teams or startuis
3.SS or startuis > razien
Without SS the game would be razien vs geo teams or stag
SS teams have a high chance of death in a one on one survivor fl which I use, sick of these players especially when they dont get their dsa off and ss dies and they rage quit like what? You serious mate? Stop playing neo if you only rely on ss and the rest in your team is poop. -_-
yea, i can see your point and all, so lower ranks is either beat it or join it, but i think nerfing SS is not the way to solve it.
The way to solve it would be releasing more fl monsters, that people in lower ranks can use, this will also make the game more interesting for people on high ranks, cause lets be honest, there is no diversity on high ranks either, cannibalize, raizen, cannibalize and raizen combined, and maaaaybe someone being original.
This sounds like a lot, but considering all the monsters there are it really isnt mucho
Nope definindetly wouldn’t i would run an oni team, lax runs a different team… and more there would defintly be more diversity
That’s more down to choice than anything, I got to something like rank 80 with a throw team, a little higher with bane when I needed 10 wins. I know lochi did pretty well with stun aids as well. Besides which the midgames are vastly different, and that’s usually where the games are decided, since entrance teams don’t sweep that much if they win the front line, they’re more focused on disruption than anything else
let’s be honest though, people run ss because they have limited front line options, I don’t think ss is the issue I think it’s more people want to use the best front they can so they stick to the generic ss line rather than trying to make something different.
Some people just lack the ability to build teams so they stick with something that works
Problem is that there arnt much frontline options. I cant speak for everyone, but personaly out of my 20 legends, i dont have a solid frontline option. I use mostly counters with 60% ish speed and kong for a fast throw. If i will hatch SS, probally i gonna try using it.
Yeah I agree it’s easier to continue using something when it works (when it flops it flops hard).
I personally would like to see more FL monsters with variability so we can see more versatile line ups. Especially with decent speed.
It’s quite clear that people are extremely biased nerf everyone else but let’s keep ss the way it is cause rng is great
Personally I feel the issue with ss is just everyone uses him due to not knowing anything else or having anything else and that’s due to people not playing the game and learning how to play
Lochi, for some reason every post you made latley was about how everybody here doesnt know how to play, how stupid their ideas are, and how better you are. If you think this way, and i guess you are, please try to comment with respect. People dont want to hear “im better then you so shut your mouth”, which is bassicly what your words mean.
And back to the topic: as i said before, i would like to see more FL legenderies. All FL are pretty much the same, rarley we see something new. That doesnt happen because people dont have better ideas, it because we are lack on resourses. Stratus shaked the game a bit, made a great option for survivor FL. I would like to see more high speed monsters, we got to many midgame options already.
At no point did I talk myself up more then anyone else here has in the past and you going to pretend that every idea is a great one cause they aren’t some one has to be the bad guy rather it be me then someone else
And I will never consider ss leads a stroke of brilliance many players that run it can run other stuff they do it cause it’s easy wins so if I come off harsh or mean so be it I don’t really care
Back to topic I was just agreeing with lax and has88 people need to find out more options for front lines or we need to have more options rather then generic front lines
There are already a lot of FL mons though LR??
Why people takes all lochi’s consideration as a personal attack?! He’s saying right things. Also if everyone runs SS is because too many people has him and we can’t do anything about it. It looks like when you hatch your first legends you get SS. My first legend was SS. So I don’t think nerfing him is a good idea cuz it could be a disadvantage for all the people with few monsters