At least you are being sensible and not blinded to the fact they went to far. Now go back to the freaken meme thread and “like” my accurate meme post…LoL just kidding…
Lol all i ever asked for was make equal protects targetable OR one of and only one of the other conditions
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I’m more sad about the PvE consequences…It won’t changee.PvP rewards but I sure hope my PvE doesn’t get affected… I mean my 5 star mossgoliath and water monster with protect moves are essential for Game of Hoardes…I like using Drako for Dungeon as well…
The devs are like the Evil Genie that grants people’s wishes in the worst way possible.
Wish:
“I wish I could live forever”
Genie:
Turns me into an immortal tree.
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Haha good point.
The community did exploit AP too far tho. And devs like balance. Unfortunately this swung definitively too far in the opposite direction
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Now pvp battles are like sumo, we can fight naked.hahaha
Again, I really wish there was a way to deal with APs specifically and leave the rest alone. It is a shame, but I feel like it was overall worth it for the meta. And I want to point out again that I reached top 100 with a team with 2 protectors in the FL alone. That’s gotta mean something.
Also, Saberzor seemed just fine to me to begin with, still pretty alright now. AP and hg alone are a pretty big deal, not to mention he can heal/duck out in bad situations.
I’ve enjoyed fighting naked in PvP to be honest. 
Doesn’t mean I don’t think they went too far though.
I agree. So a Nerf was not needed. Yes he still works ok now. But I have a history of being against nerfs in this game unless absolutely necessary. Most of the time its been against monsters I don’t own. Anything that is done that isn’t needed is the very definition of overkill.
Also it’s not a big deal to have protect moves protected from the nerf. It would have been a piece of cake to design it that way. They could have targeted Auto-protectors only.
I mean… his status as an AP automatically makes him one of the culprits of AP spam. So he pretty much had to get the hammer alongside all the others. If you’re going to look at him on an individual basis, then only fair to view all the others that way too.
How about for now, we allow the next pvp to play out, and we’ll see how well protectors do. If protectors turn out to be undeniably underperforming in the new meta, then who knows, maybe a little bit of buffing could be in order. Hopefully assistance for normal ones more than APs. Just let time tell, ok?
They already killed him along with all the other culprits with everything else they did. He didn’t need to be targeted specifically. As I said no difference in the grand scheme of things just using him as an example to support my allegation of overkill.
oh, forgot that he got a dedicated nerf as well. Didn’t seem that harsh tbh, just forcing his moves to be a little more predictable.
Time freeze, then Twiggy is 
. That is how i handled it right after the update. The bad thing is that my collection is full of so i waste my time freeze.
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Your reply really made me laugh. Especially the part about your monsters…
The main problem was RNG yes. However chomping through APs also sucked the fun out of the game.
Perhaps protectors and APs could have been distinguished, but I whole heartedly stand by my point that AP spam got hammered, sensible use of protectors did not. If you play one protector and the opponent only has Twiggy, the deadweight of twiggy will hurt them more. No one plays twiggy because of this. Even if they do, they’ll struggle.
Mr X is right, if AP spam comes back, so will Twiggy. So it moderates it. Spam got hammered, the odd protector did not.
One protector is still viable in FL.
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I dont mean ap spam
If any legendary protector or above makes the fl twiggy will be there and it doesnt matter if its one or two.
Lets say you play the mythic protector twiggy is the best solution to get rid of him and damage another monster and remove twiggy with any game friendly removal like (soul exchange- atra-geo etc)
10 cost that removed 15+ cost and charged a friendly monster.
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Ok, so if Twiggy was a legend would you have an issue with it?
You will make a good politician!
Do you think it was balanced to include regular protectors as part of the Nerf? What about Saber, do you think he needed a Nerf as well?
I remember you indicated in the past that removing the RNG will be enough, what made you change your mind?
If you think the devs nerfed AP spam in a balanced way and got it all right 
well…I’m surprised to be honest. The majority seem to think they went over the top. We got a lot of collateral damage. PvE damage as well.
Apologies for missing your question. Yeah I don’t mind that it affects regular protectors too
Saber nerf was also fine too, because it helps prevent the spam/ abuse.
I did want to see the RNG removed initially, because I thought that might be enough and I didn’t want to ask for too much that’s all. However having seen the changes I think they’re fine.
Twiggy is so powerful against protectors because it’s useless everywhere else. Standard for a hard counter. If Mr X thinks that moveset should have gone to a legend, that’s fine.
And yes, sorry to surprise you but it was balanced, again, because it stops abuse, but doesn’t kill off protectors altogether.
To prove my point, I ran 2 protectors this PvP. Lordsreign in 4th and Aegis in 5th. My overall placement was 9th and I didn’t play Sunday night. I only came across one Twiggy and simply killed it and enjoyed the advantage of the useless revive. Don’t tell me protectors are dead when I got that far using 2. I implore anyone to use one protector in the FL and see for themselves.
The abuse is dead, the protectors are not. Therefore balanced. Time to let it go 
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I’m glad AP spam abuse is dead. It went too far with Bloom and AP spam. I’m pissed to the max they didn’t fix the RNG and think they were stupid to make Twiggy so powerful against it, RAW moves bypass protection and regular protectors get effected as well.
Did I mention I hate the RNG? Same crap with Taunt. Detest the rng when two are on the field. In regards to letting it go, well I just made a meme to express the overkill they did with the nerfs and you decided to open this thread. It was supposed to be a quick laugh and others didn’t let it go.
I think most people who read the meme took it as something that was against AP spam getting nerfed. It wasn’t…Just the overkill aspect was the focus. All good you don’t agree on that👍 I just didn’t believe it at first and wanted clarification.