I’ve wanted this for a long time, and I’ve slowly seen more and more people bring it up on the forum. Sometimes people suggest slightly different ideas for it, but personally I think it makes most sense to make them dual type by adding it to one of their passives. Many of the mythics have a suitable passive that can have this added.
By having loads of waifu I think it ruins design space for union and for type-killer moves. Just look at the monsters and you’ll see we very rarely get these except for on SEs. I think the game would be better with more synergy potential and for type-killer moves to be worthwhile having, or at least the chance for moves like Hazuki’s predators’ end or Cynthia’s silver bullet to have critical targets.
The saddest thing is to see monsters like Fiona or Vespia who clearly want to be used alongside union but don’t add to the union themselves.
Here’s what I’m picturing:
Monster
Passive
Type added
Deviladus
devil comes
demon
Brynhildr
divine intervention
angel
Sepheris
insomnia*
bird
Azida
mother of dragons
dragon
Fiona
primordial force
beast
Kirina
art of taiji
beast
Leira
mermaid’s legacy
aquatic
Botan-Douji
excessive force*
demon
F.D. Maeve
queen of flutters
bug
Lime
gaia awakening
plant
Nikki
either immunity
beast
Orochi
either passive
reptile
Apollonis
dear deer
beast
Gabrielle
guardian angel
angel
Akane
dragon arrival
dragon
Bridalith
heavenly gown
dragon
Vespia
arthropod alliance
bug
Honghua
fire kagura
aquatic
Tenguko
not sure?
bird
Isoldelle
lupine prowess
beast
Jeanna d’Arc
impregnable resolve
angel
Medusa
petrify revenge*
reptile
Van Sith
phantom serenade
phantom
Rozaliz
reptile resilience
reptile
The * means changing that passive to be a unique version that adds the monster type.
There were a few others that could maybe get a change, like Sivanna as a beast and Gremoris as a demon but I don’t know where to start drawing the line.
a few days ago @PurpleHeart spoke of this,
my point is that if they will make a change massive for waifus it for all, most of the waifus are inspired something secondary as carmilla in a vampire, or charibdia in an octopus, as well add a type more going to be a disadvantage to monsters because it will be weak to types killers, but serious horrible we obtain this before a good filter against po7no game
I hope people will pay attention to this part extra specifically. They’ll gain neiche weaknesses on top of still keeping humanoid weakness but most importantly gain a lot of union support.
Yeah. But making all/many waifu dual type creates unbalance. Only few should adap these ig. Like:
Azida
Fiona
Brida
Vespa
Niki
Isodel
Rosaliz
And vespa has passive that is boosted when bug is in field, similar with azida. How would that work if they really tweak the passive like this giving dual types.
I think you misunderstood? They’ll keep the humanoid type but get a second type to synergize better with Union skills and setups. Simultaneously, they will become targets to other moves like Dragonslayer, Scale Breaker, Heaven slayer etc. So they’ll actually be more counterable in many cases. And some of those skills finally gain targets!
I think if you add stuff based on what trait they have on them that stands out other than being human, like Hazuki with rabbit ears making it beast, that should probably be the line.
I am all for that. It could also help a lot for people who struggle with high levels in BQ and would make PvP even more diverse as it would enable a bunch of new combos: Waifu + her type Union teams.
That’s an easy coding and text change so it needs a teammate with that type, i.e. not counting themselves. That’s already the case for union moves.
That’s what I was thinking. Christine is a funny one because she seems to have an orca tail but then she’s wearing an orca hoodie. However, what I noticed is that a lot of them randomly have ears or a tail that would make them beast. We’d suddenly get a lot of beasts and that is already a well supported monster type. Almost none of them can be phantom, rock, etc.
I was using the logic that Kirisune just said and I replied here with. Pandora is more like a human that is in a demonic box… but really depends how you want to classify it haha. I also thought about Kanna being robotic but wasn’t sure if I could justify it enough. We need some proper robot waifu @Dev_VKC
We’re pretty much aligned with the type assignments KD suggested, and we’ll be implementing this idea in the next update, though not all of them, more or less.
As for type-killer skills, most of them are not core elements in team building (except for Humanoid-Killer), so we’re not too worried about them weakening certain waifus. What we’re more concerned about is whether dual-type makes certain combos too aggressive.
Our biggest concerns right now are:
Beast (Shikabloom, Rodeknight)
Bug (Calamitas, Beetlebrute, Mantisamurai)
Bird (Soral, Plumesilisk)
We’d love your feedback. Do you think this change might push any of them into Which monsters need a Nerf? catergory?
We’re also planning to make Humanoid-type exclusive to waifus. You can think of it as the “goddess type.” For example, instead of being dual-typed, Deviladus will be just Demon, and Brynhildr will be Angelic, etc. We know this might make certain waifu bond quests a bit harder, I am sorry in advance.
Speaking of bond quests, currently, dual-typed doesn’t count toward bond battle requirements. (For example, Cactalars doesn’t count as a Plant type right now.) We’ll be working to improve that as well, to make things smoother for everyone.
