Having a way to counter roaring entrance, motor, stun entrance would be a net benefit for the game.
Nerfing motor is unecassary and actually detrimental if anything. Nerfing monsters is very rarely a good idea and usually does not fix anything.
The match would only be one sided if you were unable to kill the entrance blocker. Same way you have to kill or remove stun absorbers for stun to be productive.
The issue is there is no way to avoid or prevent motors passive especially zib motor. An entrance blocker would add the benefit of blocking other common cannibalize frontlines, zib/Bane TT, zib chrono TT, zib icefang TT, you can sub lava mane for zib there too.
There is a quite big difference between stun absorber and an entrance blocker.
Stun absorber is just a counter for stunning entrance. On the other hand, the entrance blocker is a counter for ALL entrance moves. It’s too wide. That’s the reason why the entrance blocker is OP.
Additionally, stun absorber has a disadvantage that when he absorb stun, he will be easily killed by timestrike or remain untouched. Furthermore, he kills other allies if opponents have raizen or chronozeros. And generally stun absorber can be removed by protector killer, assasinate or chrono killer, thus they are counterable.
The entrance blocker doesn’t have such disadvantages.
If he has disadvantages that for example he kills one ally when he blocks any entrance moves, I think it’s OK.
Every monster must not have wide range to counter.
As you said, an entrance blocker can counter many kinds of monsters by only single monster.
It’s called OP like motor - geo combo in current meta.
An entrance blocker passive wouldn’t have to be OP and block ALL entrances - just junk monsters entrances. Besides, you could give it any number of other moves to give it weaknesses - make it a protector/sleeper/poisoner/overwatch/etc. and then it has a multitude of potential counters. The concept is not at all inherently OP. I think a well thought out moveset with an entrance blocking passive would be a great new event monster.
Lochi, it is not users here who decide whether it is impossible…it’s devs.
All we can do is to discuss the better way to fix the issues.
Please don’t discourage us against discussing cuz this is discussion forum!
If you think it is impossible, you should post why you think so.
edit: this post is based on my misunderstanding, sorry lochi.
Well it is a general rule in life that no one/nothing can please everyone/everything. As what he said what ever happens, tweak motor or not, someone will always be happy and unhappy about the changes.
I’m in no way saying do not discuss what I am saying is devs do listen to us
And yeah end of day someone will
Be upset they don’t get what they wanted people got mad when gazer was nerfed when chrono got nerfed etc but it was for the greater good some one will be mad or upset you can’t please everybody and if you say otherwise you are delusional
Yeah so we have to give the most appropriate action against motor and the horror it brings so that devs can study and take into consideration the best solution. I hope the devs choose wisely.
Devs would have to test it obviously, but I am enjoying the conversation. Still like the idea of an entrance blocker.
It could be made to only block boxes/shells as well. I still think it would be fine if it blocked multiple entrance passives.
You make a good point though Navelstan, The entrance blocker could receive damage for every entrance passive blocked, or it only blocks 3 entrance effects.
If it was a bulky monster with no weaknesses then it would be op.
