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Not the intended use but okay

debunked

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Her offensive skills aren’t a problem at all,it’s usually all the she’ll s that spawns that make it problematic

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Well that’s his entrie thing she is for shell spam

Then why does she have an offensive moveset? Lunartic, Motordragon and Dualdragoon don’t have an offensive moveset and are dedicated to shell spam. And Sunflower performs on par of them, if not better, in the Bronzeshell department.

Also Middle People rise up

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dont compare it to motor that has 2 knockbacks and is unmovable

Ugh, not this again. Like someone else said: these legendaries are used by both free players AND spenders. If you’re thinking like this then you’re just showing you can’t engage in a serious balance discussion because you clearly value your own personal position in the game far more highly over that.

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Exactly, that’s not an offensive moveset, it’s a disruptive one.

@Coltraz Thanks for including the video. I was just about to come here and say how the aura triggers revenges. It’s interesting… because that means Violet can get kills on hold ground monsters to charge bloodthirst very effectively. However, it also means it’s bad against a few monsters. I really like the unique design of it.

I voted “middle” in that poll because I’m still not totally convinced about nerfing Sunflower and we haven’t seen the last garden fairy yet. However, a tweak to the chance on the aura would probably be nice. Perhaps it could be:
50% chance to create a Bronzeshell when a 4*+ teammate dies
100% chance if you have a G.F. teammate on the battlefield

Probably a bit too complicated for design but it sounds like the ideal outcome to me

it triggers all revenges, it can also easily die from mons like Musashoid or Skeleviathan. For me it’s high risk high reward type of monster.

What if it was proportional to the dead monster’s rarity?
50% for 4/5★
75% for 6★
100% for 7★
That way it’d be better than a flat 50% for every death, which imho would be too harsh a nerf.

Middle People rise up

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Yeah I like that

I have a feeling some community members wouldn’t like this haha

Sounds good to me but has the same potential issue of making it too complicated

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As much as I hate this nerf topic I agree with it.

As for the nerf take her harden carpasca and give her defensive mode

I can start a religion out of this

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where do I start my wish list of mons that I don’t have that have to be nerfed?

My thought process behind it was that the most used Protectors are 5★, so they should get the least chance. Legendaries have their fair share too, but there’s really not much 7★ protectors.

Ask @NMEduck to open a nerf suggestion thread for this PvP season first

Give her passive a raw status .

let’s do all passives for all mons RAW and there is no more problem with ap spam :slight_smile: