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Thatâs the point, by decreasing her chance to activate her passive, it wonât be enough for her to simply exist on the field, in order to being value
Right now, her passive is so that she canât ever be useless. She can be MORE useful when her HP is high, but you canât deadweight her. By decreasing her passive activation chance, she can at least be less reliably constantly useful.
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I can list you more constantly useful lgnds that DO NOT need additional mons to activate half of skills, that people dont cry about
For example? I donât think they would be Sunflower level of useful. She kind of prevents you from sweeping unless you kill her first, which is a lot to deal with.
Sunflower GF in my opinion has many weaknesses⌠it has VIGOR skill and when monster HP is below 70% monster canât kill, I know your concern is on hardened carapace⌠so try to give some reasonable suggestions like changing hardened carapace passive with HG or bitting revenge. That way you can kill him easily đ¤ˇ
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Well, I understand that Sunflower owners are trying to protect it from getting nerfed but letâs be real Sunflower provides too much value by simply exist on the field.
Some suggestions of mine:
-Dual confident strike to confident strike.
-Hardened carapace to defensive mode.
-Unwanted aura to 35-50% activation.
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it doesnât matter,
there is a very easy way to counter all of that not that people are considering it.
The health reduction is easy way to go about it. On the contrary, the Dark Sunflower kills without trigerring
the Revenges. Itâs like Nova usage has gone on whole other level(reducing the mons to holdground before the passive kills them). I think she definetely needs a nerf.
Imho Sunflowerâs offence is just fine. There is no problem with Double Confident Strike or Vigor Slayerbreak, and Hardened Carapace helps her remain in the 80% threshold. I am perfectly fine with that. She SHOULD be an offensive powerhouse.
The only problem is her passive, which makes her useful no matter what.
Sunflower is still useful even when at 20% HP
Thatâs a bit of an exaggeration. Novadrake provides insane levels of field control and can heal himself to full once per match from Hold Ground. Violet has good offence but dies to a fart even more than Novadrake.
Also, does Decay Aura really negate revenges? I didnât know that.
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Itâs not. I recently got erased by whole squad and the decay for most revenges behaves like poison.
And Nova with âenragedâ mode on will put most mons on hold ground. It isnât an exaggeration when i sai that a frontline erased my complete squad without any chance to fightback.
Also Considering how Sunflowerâs is useless after being below 70 i think we are trying to remove all playabilty by nerfing her ability.
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Why do some mythic awaken users always ask for nerf to monster legend moreover the monster is the mainstay of f2p? Why are mythic monsters always ignored and never nerf? whereas it is stronger than the level of monster legend. Is this the so-called game balance for all players? or game balance for certain players only?
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As a gf sunflower user she doesnât need nerf her passive got nerf(lets be real itâs not even a nerf) she becomes deadweight when she is bellow 70 hp yes she has her passive but she can be easily taken out once below 70 hp her harden carapence is there so she can least make 1-2 shells In the enemy team
P.s If I had enough s+ tier i would just put them near gf and the emeny just forgets about her
No, Violet triggers all payback revenge, death revenge, stun revenge. Her passive is not a void skill.
canât we talk about cynthia who dominated pvp for almost 8 months, and barely touched at all before we talk about sunflower ?
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Donât say that in front of the broken users
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Didnât know that, interesting.
Was it a G.F. frontline? Or was there only Violet
Sheâs as useless as Lunartic when you leave it on the field. Actually thatâs not true, Lunartic is definitely more useless.
Itâs not. G.F.s are used by F2P and spenders alike, because why wouldnât anyone use a Bronzeshell generating machine?
Also, people complain about Mythics all the time. Lemon and Cynthia are always brought up in Mythics discussions, like Gorgodrake in the past (dunno why people stopped complaining about an 11 cost Poison Novadrake) and Bastia as well. There isnât any sort of broken user conspiracy.
Decay aura triggers all revenges, if you want we can test that 
Please donât conspiracy theories and selective neglect
I canât trust anyone⌠Yeah Iâd like to test that, if youâre available!
If you do, Iâll DM you the code on Discord
Lets see how many people want a sunflower nerf
- Sunflower should be nerfted
- Sunflower should not be nerfted
- Middle people
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Ngl Iâd have chosen the Sunflower nerf but I want to join the âMiddle Peopleâ, they sound epic
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