many of you guys might know who I am and for those that are new I will introduce myself, I am Cry is free (in game name) also known as Ahmed I left the game about a year ago or so and recently I decide to come back and checkout the game again.
First of all I would like to thank devs for changing the game quite a bit from where it was left (motor, stun era) and upgrading the potato servers, but on the other hand I want to talk about the power creep that is going on here as the title of this topic suggest. (reprinting old monsters but more powerful then the pervious).
So here are the skill comparison.
1-Zealous Attack and Survive < Berserk Attack.
2-Confident strike < Overconfident Strike
3-Stun immune < Stun convertor < Stun counter
4-stun entrance < Shocking Entrance < Tranquilizing Entrance
5-life-flip < life flip unlimited < Meditation
6-150 sec twin bomb < Swift Dual Slayerbane. (This the case 95%. of the times)
7-stealth all < Purifying mist
8-Death revenge < (Steal death revenge turtle)
9-bloodthrist < Bloodlust
10- 400 Seconds bomb < Link Slayerbane all< Slayerbane All
11. Survive < Bloodcrave
12. Double bloodcrave < Double Bloodthirst with Excessive Force
example of power creep (Magmarinus,Wraithhost)
Wraithost was a terrible design in my opinion the worst monster in terms of skill set so the devs decided to power creep him into another monster named Magmarinus. lets talk look at the skill set.
1-both monsters have the same passives.
2-both monsters have 1 attack that deals a lot of damage and return some damage to the user. Survive requires 320 seconds to do a lot of damage while its power creeped version berserk attack requires 0 seconds wait down. both skills do the same thing but one is a lot better then the other.
3- both monsters have a skill to heal. Life Flip Unlimited power creeped into Repent. both skills are used to heal the user to full hp.
4-secret skill. while there secret skill differ but you can say (insta twin bomb without killing the user compared to 400sec Novablast).
you guys can do the comparison between Wraithhost and Gyomurai and see the power creep
All am asking is can you please stop power creeping and if you wanted to power creep something buff the old one instead of reprinting a new one.
The power creep discussion has definitely become more relevant in the past 6 months. The new monsters really are crazy powerful, but it’s the passives and combinations of passives more than the moves that have become insane.
Gyo is sleep and poison immune, that makes him deadly against 2 metas. The new sleep immune stun counter is also awesome.
I think the biggest difference is old monsters are typically vulnerable to 2 or 3 metas, if not to all attacks, but these new ones require a very specific counter, and generally have to be KBd or simply killed as they are incapacitated by fewer strategies.
The new ability to bypass HG is also something on the offensive end that the OG monsters don’t have as often (not sure when penguinator was released).
Its better then shocking entrence, as shocking entrence or any stunning entrence can be avoided and ciuntered. Its much harder to avoid sleep entrence. Plus this monster got a good active moveset, while shockers worth only with their passive - everything else is â– â– â– â– beside a 1 time sendback
Anyway the oroblem is the devs hardly make new stuff , just improvements to old stuff.
Mirror revenge is powerfull, DR is powerfull, exssesive force is powerfull, why not all 3 on them on the turtle?
Stun is powerfull, sleep entrence ia VERY powerfull, again - why not together?
They keep doing those and it ruining the game for me. All the old monsters are just outdated. You MUST pay money to keep with the power level of the new released monsters.
I partially agree. I think were on the same page about the passives getting out of hand. You make great point with the combo entrance and stronger passives are coming.
As for buying, you dont have to pay to play, but these new monsters make it harder to be competitive without them. Gyo in a 1 on 1 team is amazing.
I thought of bunker but it will be countered by chrome 5th (takes care of leo) then shocker 6th (renders all 3 coming monsters stunned unless 5th slot is a stun absorber protector) so thats why I put drako instead of bunker
Ahmed makes a great point with a lot of examples. I agree with most of the stuff above. The word creep suggests it’s slowly rising but I think the power creep is moving far quicker than that. Monsters are becoming outdated all the time and I think the only way to rebalance will be a combination of nerfs and buffs
