Pay 2 Win

B-b-but you can still beat the game so that makes everything ok!

I can’t comprehend how people aren’t extremely disappointed by how much of a downgrade this game is from hunter island. More monsters doesn’t make a better game. Adding animation doesn’t make a better game. It’s the fundamental game mechanics which separated the island series with the other crappy monster collecting games.

Also I disagree that the animation is cool. One of the best parts of the previous island games is how fast the battles and attacks were. We don’t need an animation for the count down timers. We don’t need an animation for poison. Poison shouldn’t slow down the game. I mean we have a crap load of monsters to get through. Why make those battles longer? This game isn’t fun because of the animation. The monster design art is cool but that doesn’t affect the flow of the game.

Hunter island is better because they changed it from a simple fun rpg collector & added stuff nobody wanted but them.

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I was too on the moon with Buzz Aldrin and staff but you now, you didn’t me.

At the beginning of the time, I thought we can actually catch all of 900 monsters, which is sick. But now, this game makes me feel bad, if the game cost more at the beginning at actually let us catch em all, I am happy to do that. Now it makes me feel I was tricked

The dragon legend, it seems like u r the only one who try to convince us that the game is not hard… And u said it is frustrating. But y? Y the game has to be frustrating? Can’t we just play it like hunter island? Or dragon island? I started following this company since dragon island. It is sad to say, but it seems like costumers are not the important part any more. Money is.

Ashley is 1000% right, devs need to speak up, even if it’s trivial responses. I understand everyone is upset and they might be in hostile environment, and they might be upset themselves. But they need to brave through it and try to compromise and communicate with the player base. Lack of communication just means they could do something the player base doesn’t like again.

My largest problem is just the extreme lack of eggs, yes, because getting even a 4* is literally impossible once you beat story and online content. I don’t mind hard or time consuming. But I would rather farm omegawyrm than wait two months from log-in bonuses to get an epic.

while playing once per 150 minutes to play youth fruit mission a single time, or 250 minutes to get a small chance at getting my needed Evo meterial

But devs; the game has amazing potential with not much work. Yes, finding a balance and making the playerbase happy will be tough. But ALL of us would appreciate communication, and to know you’re giving it a shot

Personally I like the animations, the amount of monsters, the new mechanics, ultra-evos and training system, blah blah blah

I’m sure the others think likewise, if they truly hated every single thing and didn’t think a change could happen, they wouldn’t be on the forum

Hi Guys, 

We will do what we can to make the game better, here are our thoughts.

First, what’s important is that we are trying to make a game centered around pvp, we feel our battle is close to games like magic the gathering, so that’s where we want to take this. All cards are not distributed to magic the gathering players. While we are obviously inspired by Pokemon (shinmegamitensei to be more accurate), our battle is heavily inspired by card games such as magic the gathering etc, so we are not going for a catch’em all experience. However, we do realize not being able to get strong monsters without paying is crap. Having said that, 

  1. We are just getting started, one of the most common complaints was, lack of post game content and the need to grind for hours to get good monsters in HI, please don’t expect to get the best monsters from the start, we will have missions with chances of getting good monsters.

  2. PvP: This is where you get the strongest monsters in the game as prizes. We have an ELO system, which means people with similar records are matched up. People are ranked globally, and depending on your rankings, you get medals which you can spend in a special shop, people with higher ELOs will get more points per win, but everyone will get some medals even if its just for participating. If you don’t have a strong party, it will take time to earn monsters from this special shop, but I think this is fair. Even in HI and DI, you had the option to grind, or to pay money. You can’t buy the special medals with money. 

We should be able to open up a new online area within the next 10 days, after that we will get a special mission ready with a prize monster. 

For those who wanted a catch’em all experience, we are sorry, but this game is not designed like that. Hunter Island wasn’t a catch’em all game either, you had to participate in online missions etc to get the best monsters. We are very focused on running an actual online section with pvp tournaments and fun events this time around.  

I see some people making multiple threads about disliking the game, please stick to one. Let’s make this one the hate thread. Another important thing is not to mock people who are enjoying the game. Complaining and writing your thoughts about the game is fine, but if you bother other players who are enjoying the game, we will ban you immediately. 

Here’s some data, roughly half the people who have beat the game so far (online and offline) have not made any purchases inside the game. There’s about 50 people who have beat the game already. 

Oh wow 25 people have beaten the main story after 9 days most of which had a legendary transferred from hunter Island and almost every person who posted they have clear it have ether a really lucky team with several high tier monsters or said they had to spam death roulette well except for a certain beta tester who seems to find the game so easy to clear and if my mermory isn’t wrong could cleared the game On day 3.

i found it also if I’m reading this right beta testers can keep their accounts for the final game? so how many of the 25 people who paid don’t just have a month or two old beta account that they reroll for till they got 2 or 3 legendary with lots of fruit and even mats.

I’m pretty sure more and more people will beat the game as time passes, beating the game in 9 days is really hard. As for the person you are talking about, he was one of the best players in Hunter Island, so I will assume he will probably be one of the best players in this game as well. 2 days is insane. lol.  

beta accounts are marked, so we don’t count them as real users yet (we will once people have enough time to catch up, as they earned what they got fare and square, unlike last time with Hunter Island, which many people complained about). 

Dont base your damn game around a catch em all experience next time & compare it to pokemon then & use that as promo this is far from it. & Even if you say hunter island required online missions to get some of the best monsters the key word is “SOME”

(SOME DEFINITION- an unspecified amount or number of. Example: “I made SOME money running errands”)

YOU locked ALL the best monsters behind a paywall.
KEY WORD “ALL”

(ALL DEFINITION- used to refer to the whole quantity or extent of a particular group or thing. EXAMPLE: " Hey dude, I caught ALL the legendaries available in hunter island, but not even SOME of them are available in Neo Monsters whats up with that ?)

so dont even compare HI to this at all, I was still able to build a really good team in HI because there were alot of legendary monsters not locked behind a paywall, you locked literally every legend behind a paywall so spare me your lame excuses as to why you built a horrible experience . As far as im concerned all the developers who made this game sold out & got money hungry & stopped caring about anybody who enjoyed there old games thats the ONLY reasonable excuse.

Have a nice day though

Thanks for the answer guys, though it doesn’t address all our complains.
First of all on the AppStore you wrote that you can catch 900 monsters, so I’m asking you to change that cause they aren’t all catchable and yes, you will be able to get some with pvp, but again, some.
As the user above said it’s a bit of a contradiction to say that you want to be inspired by Pokemon and the explain that this isn’t a catch 'em all experience (AppStore doesn’t say so).
So the main problem (not only one) is that people expected one game and got another one with, you should admit it, a huuuuge, very huge paywall.
I understand that you’re working on a nice (we’ll see) pvp system with rewards but pvp can’t be just the center of the game along with online missions.
People play on cellphone, some times without connection and limited consume, also not everybody like pvp a lot.
Along with this the monsters catchability isn’t the only issue.
Maps exploration feel really poor compared to the huge one of HI (main story is very very poor too). HI had missions, arena, events, this is just a straight path to the next trainer to beat or a pathetic dungeon that will last something like 2 minutes.
Do you remember old dungeons in old games? Loved them.
Also evolution system is new and different from other games and this could be good but in fact it isn’t. It seems really raw and not refinished.
Speaking about materials and ultra evolutions this is a very free to play model that I saw in lots of other games (like the One Piece mobile one) and believe me, it can be a huge no-no, expecially with these waiting times. Still I think that such a thing should not be in a payment game (not even in a free one).
I just woke up, so if I forgot something I’ll add it in another post.
Just thank you for the answer, it’s not complete but it is something and I really appreciate it, have a good day.

Honestly, I have little interest in being a part of this any longer.

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Not to talk about the 60+ hours, monsters customisation and “hundreds of different moves”.
This is also an issue, false advertising.

Thank You ash

Uhhh hunter island and dragon island WERE Catch them all game. The fact is that the added online content was premium, but you could catch the rest in the field that you could find in gems. In fact you could catch powerful monsters in the field. In addition, this game is NOTHING like magic the gathering. The truth is, the admin post looks like excuses to justify the money grabbing model. To illustrate a huge diffence in MtG and this game is In magic you don’t start with all the cards but you also can collect all the good ones through the campaign. Then when they changed that in the latest game the fans were furious. In the end, the devs eventually got rid of that pay to collect feature.

It’s not looking like you care about your root fans. The reason for this is because you changed the series to be a money collecting game rather than a true successor to hunter island for the fans. like I can’t even comprehend how you would claim that the monster catching aspect in HI was comparable to this game. I hope selling out was worth it.

Oh another thing. In magic the gathering there is NO wait time. If you want to increase your card collection you can play a lot. Good god the hoops some people jump through to justify their poor decisions.

Another thing. There DOES need to be multiple threads about this type of stuff because obviously the community is upset by how much they were looking forward to another hunter island game and then got this crap instead. Being vocal is the only way to get devs to listen. I think you saying it should only be one thread is an attempt to shut up the community.

Thank you Pete they got nothing right with this game, Energy is low, Fruit money & ingredients are hidden behind keys, keys take 24 hours to replenish, even when you use a key it requires extreme amounts of energy, More energy then you’ll ever actually have in the game, they basically implemented an energy in energy system, those keys arent actually keys in my opinion its Energy, energy that you only get 6 of & it takes 24 hours to get back to make matters worse when you use that energy (keys) you have to use your actually energy 15-25 energy to get anything done this is anything but hunter island, I remember the good ol days leveling up by grinding in the wild & evolving without the use for stupid ingredients that have no type of mytho to go with why those ingredients make those monsters ultra evolve they just want our cash & admin is using stupid excuses to justify why all they wanted this time around was money & they didnt care that they put out a poop game

It doesn’t even fully matter that tickets are low and keys respawn times high.
There shouldn’t even be such things in a game like this, specially if people paid for it.

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It doesn’t even fully matter that tickets are low and keys respawn times high.
There shouldn’t even be such things in a game like this, specially if people paid for it.[/quote

agreed

okay, we adjusted some of the wording. it doesn’t mean we don’t plan to add stuff later. please just keep the negativity in here. writing negative comments all over the place will ruin this forum, and we will have to ban you to prevent that. 

If the topics are about something else that needs a discission or with a fair purpose, and the same complains dont dip into every topic there shouldnt be an issue at all.

Fair enough but there are so many aspects about the game that people are upset about that I think it’s fair to have multiple topics addressing the major issues or it will get lost in one big topic. For example, there is a topic about the low replay value, a topic about keys, a topic about gems, a topic about rare monsters, a topic comparing hunter island to this game. They are negative because the general consensus is that these are the major negative aspects of the game. I would think the devs would appreciate these discussions in order to listen to the fan base. On the other hand if there is a topic about line ups or favorite monsters, I agree that posting off topic negative things degrade the forum.

okay, this makes sense. we are fine as long as its relevant. just don’t attack non admins. 

Thanks Admin. I’ve enjoyed the game a lot and there’s so much depth in the battles I can’t hardly wait for pvp to be released. Not everyone hates the game and I can’t wait for more!