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2491

been thinking about XYZ for a while - how about giving him an interesting upgrade where instead of having stun absorber he has “Stun Transformer” - a move which collects the stun but does not move him back in the turn queue. his despairing strike could become - Charged strike - which does the same as the original move only it also stuns the target for half of the stun that XYZ has collected.

it still means that XYZ has his traditional “Risky to play” status but the reward for risking becomes greater.

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2492

It’s a beautiful compromise, although I think he should still get pushed back, maybe 50% of the stun TU? Combine bisector and absorber into one, and make the “charged strike” increase in HP% dealt by say 20% per 100 stun absorber could work too

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2493

ye actually i was thinking about that this morning lol. him getting half the stun and collecting half of it.

2494

So many people always asking for XYZ buffs, often ones which remove any downside so he’s just a crazy stun engine. XYZ doesn’t need it, they already buffed him lots! If you meet stunnable monsters the +50TU to their entrance is absurd. He’s also got 80% speed instant KBN and a time’s up that one-shots basically all mythics. He’s been balanced so he’s stronger than he should be, but with the counter of stun counter/converter monsters.

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2495

Every mythic who is owned by a lot of people its the case , they want to make them broken , unbelievably powerful

2496

i don’t own XYZ. i just want to see him used more.

incidentally i originally thought that the move could be used on nulltron to try to fix his stun>timestrike situation but i realized it was too powerful for a leggy. i then thought that because i had called the move “Stun Transformer” it would suit XYZ since he is a transformer.

also, while im here…

#buffjerbo

2497

I think the powercreep and P2W level in this game is still relatively low (compared to other games) if you exclude the top (maybe 100-250?) PvP spots as a goal.

The powercreep system was very visible at the release of Maeve and her quickly recurring banner. Also Camilla was an absolute powercreep release. I guess Bastia too, but I didn’t play the game at her release time yet, so I cannot judge. Probably other mythics as well.

On the other hand, specific important PvE legendaries and SEs can easily be obtained by everybody. Many overpowered PvE monsters are SE and legendaries. So PvE content isn’t a powercreep system at all. Many PvE tactics need specific monsters, but not powercreep monsters.

I’m playing less than two years F2P and I’m very sure, a player like Loki, Duck, Coltraz,… (just to name a few active PvP players with high experience, top teambuilding and playing skill without judging) could easily reach PvP top 100, probably top 50 with my monster dex.

What I actually like to say (after talking a lot :pray: and still will talk a lot more), usually companies don’t powercreep an existing monster/object, because the selling power is much lower than at it’s initial release. And to not upset the players who bought their powercreep monsters, since they are the potential buyers of the next powercreep monster, they can only nerf and balance them slowly.

I like that they slowly rework weak SE or legendaries, like Balancion, Gaiawolf or Manti, to become interesting again, even in PvP. That’s great work by the devs. Also all the small UI and game tweaks that we all take for granted.

It looks like very many people play this game, but I highly guess, most install it and quit, since the game itself isn’t what it is commercialized. They probably come to see a Pokémon clone, but it isn’t the case at all. Or to see hentai content. They might even buy a welcome banner, or fall for the tricky gem descriptions, but then you need to play at least a month or probably three, to really be able to get started with PvE content. If you don’t know the monsters and the game, even longer. Just to see that the game is actually a 16v16 system which requires high teambuilding and playing skills. Required skill is also a big problem, we all love that system, but most people don’t want to learn skill and rather choose a different and more easy to understand game. At least half a year will pass before you can start PvP, since at the beginning you don’t know which monsters will be worth rolling for and you have few gems and few ingredients.

How many PvP players are actually active? If you see the very weak matchmaking, it’s partly because there are just not enough players. If I only play and loose one PvP match a season, I’ll rank top 3000 with zero points. That’s definitely few players.

At the end, I like to praise (once again) the monster designers of Neo, I’m very in love with so many monster designs, I created 50+ background pictures already for my desktop PC. I’ll post them like always in the fanart thread.

Please don’t mind my long posts :pray: and take care guys.

The community here and in Discord is one of the nicest I’ve seen so far, and that’s all because of you.

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2498

I’ve used him a bunch, in a variety of teams. He performs well. When Lemon tried XYZ he said something along the lines of “wow, he’s so good. People should use him more”. I think with XYZ the thing is that there are clear counters to it and it feels horrible to play a monster with a negative/risk, even if overall it’s good enough that it shouldn’t matter. It’s kind of like how people go overboard with stun protection because they hate the times when they get stunned and beaten because they weren’t playing enough.

2499

Silly KD, you can never go overboard with stun protection.

2500

Unless you’re sacrifice a lot of consistency against other non stun teams, making teams with good stun protection is simply another aspect of preparing for what you might face.

2501

Read all your long text , thank you for sharing your experience

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2502

Attack stats onix >> xyz-999L in many scenario pvp + pve
Stun counter vs Stun absorber

We have many player ask him to get a buff.
Like Harden carapace, Unmovable , defensif stats etc.
Xyz just normal stun absorber. Let’s compare to another monster.

Cobalt Coalting+ = Manual 300% boost defense and we have carmilla with 1000% boost defense as a passive.
Despairing strike = 85sec and I am use it like power slash (very low damage)

Instant Knockback next = very good move to knockback stun counter or stun. But too bad as long fd iris still become meta ,he Will never do this.

For me, shocking entrance > ion field III . Ion field III Is like high risk low reward .
Stun absorber basically deadweight .

And finally we compare it with other (field monster) , auto poison and dreamworld . At least they not give turn to enemy :rofl:

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2503

I was watching the Tier List a few days ago and i got surprised
Botan Douji is a S monster,and nobody use her,she have a few amazing skills but is limited for the “Link” skill,i think his awakened form should lose the link option (like Sivanna with her SOLO,or Dragulus with his RAW) that would make Botan Douji more used,cause tbh she can be a good monster,and will be used a lot more,just like Carmilla,Carmilla is OP for a few reasons,her defense,her way to get life easily and obviously her link skill is the SS
Carmilla low sec skill is that drain of life,just imagine that Carmilla was limited for a “link drain”,nobody will use her,cause just a piercing attack and Carmilla will be deadweight cause she can’t cure and still attacking so hard,so Botan Douji should get her low secs skill without that link too,also take a look of Slayer Stun,she can’t use the skill if is any AP in enemies cause you need to focus exactly the monster who kill,if you can’t choose the monster you can’t use the skill too,tbh she should be better,she stand in Neo for almost two years,and nobody wait for her,only for her shrine lol

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2504

Did u just ask for a buff to ur shared myth? That left a lot to say

2505

My shared mythic is Suikenshi lol

2506

I was out the game for a few months,decide to return and is even more ■■■■ than when i left
Meta still Carmilla,Maeve,and now Hazuki
Still nerfing f2p myth and making more broken the others
FL Bundam,Neko,Glaciaron-Padrinorca,or mythic spam
Neo is going down everytime more quickly,if devs don’t improve Neo will die in less a year lol

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2507

Just to be clear, she’s S tier for PvE and A tier for PvP. One of the reasons she’s high tier for PvE is she doesn’t need link to work there… you can just skip and timestrike.

2508

Thanks for the correction
Really appreciate it,but i’ll like a good pvp use for Botan Douji,is almost useless without fire link,her more easily way to get kills is You are grounded,maybe she can get a Blood skill like Carmilla,only one kill and heal a little bit,is just my opinion but i’ll like to use more one of my myths,i don’t like play the meta,Carmilla,Hazuki,Maeve,SoRal etc,and have all of them lol

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2509

Stop complaining lol
#CryLessAndPlayMore

2510

“Said the Poseidon-Myst+meta user”

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