Kami on PvP not rare

You guys know what is better than beating a team with stego+chaca? … Yup, beating an almost-full team with egg/OM monsters and stego+chaca AND kami WITH just an average team with no egg monsters and just one OM monster (golderhorn). I guess there is still some hope in PvP :confused:

Either I have faced two different hackers or I have faced two legit very hardcore players.

Pictures as follows:

1st fight: http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/834/4fwp.png

2nd fight: https://imageshack.com/i/mkm9x8p

side note: I have been facing many players with kami in pvp recently. How is this possible!!! it’s so hard to get… I myself ain’t even close to getting vegicat… my gosh…

Tajid, on this forum, has obtained Kamiwyrm legitimately. 

You may be fighting him and others (if there are others) who have obtained it legitimately.

With that being said, there are also known exploits that have allowed for Kamiwyrm to be obtained much more easily. The people who have used these exploits will be banned in the update. 

none of those two I faced is tajid. Tajid and I do friendly pvp. (and he doesn’t run stego+chaca stun either).

It’s true, I also met many of them too… Petty for them is that they mostly just AOE all the way except when using cheap moves like stego&char. Honestly beating them is much easier comparing with beating many of the real hardcore players in master league.
But hey, I like to beat up the hackers with underdogs, it’s fine :stuck_out_tongue:

I haven’t been on public pvp lately due to bad internet connection as I am overseas.

Yes Kami seems to be more & more common nowadays, last 40 matches I had, I fought about 5 of them & they are different players, with GC IDs that I am not familiar at all - **cough*ha.cker**cough**

& these people are not even in top 50 pvp leaderboard…

Now that someone actually has one, they thought it was safe to go and get Kami out when they clearly don’t know how to play it.

I am tired of hackers in pvp. I am tired of bonus actions when hackers and other players get multiple bonus actions with kami and stego. Most of all, I am tired of mods saying that these problems will be fixed in early January. Even nerdy developers should have anticipated the problems with just a day or two of testing. It is time to stop blaming Apple for the problems. Even I could see a problem with timing eggs with little testing. Egg timers were probably the biggest spenders in Dragon Island Blue and egg timers have probably been some of the biggest spenders in this game. That is what the developers want. Unlike, Dragon Island, these problems affect other players.

It is easy for the developers to say they will fix the problems of over poweried arks by nerfing their abilities. I have seen this in another game. The nerf is followed by the introduction of even more powerful creatures to stimulate spending. That game seems to be dying. In another game that I play, the developers seem to have much better self control. Spending only helps you advance a little faster. It does not give a significant advantage that can be obtained by players with little or no expenditure. I would like to see the developers show a little self control over getting the quick dollar over the long term health of the game.

I apologize for the rant, but I have spent a couple of hundred dollars on this game because it has so much promise. I will not continue playing if I have to resort to timing eggs to stay competitive.

I’m sorry if you’re tired of us sounding like broken records

There can only be so much done with 4 developers working on it

The egg timing should be going away because of the outrage of you guys

It’s not like they don’t pay attention.

Edit: honestly, sitting here raging about it does nothing. Sitting here ranting about it does nothing. If you can’t handle what’s going on in the game right now, then stop playing it for now

There is no other option besides wait. That’s all you can do. I’m sorry we can’t do more but there isn’t any other option

Ranting does help… Apparently changes because of displeasure of egg timers will result in a change even though it might affect current expenditures. I have no beef with the egg timers themselves. The developers made it an option. Ranting about bonus actions also seem to help. I just wish that the mods at least had the perception that they showed more support for the players concerns instead of the developers profit. That is more in line with what I have seen in other forums. Tajid is one of the few players that I consistently loose too that I respect because he earned his strength through a lot of hard work. Beta testers and mods seem to think they need to have some sort of allegiance to the developers instead of the player community. In others games, some of the mods are the first to complain when the developers are being stupid or are going after immediate profits instead of considering the long term health of a game.

When it’s been stating it will be fixed, what’s the point in continuing to rant about it? That’s what I’m arguing. The changes you guys want are coming in the update but ranting about the same stuff and us repeating gets old

I’m sorry we’re not like other communities and their mods but we try and look at the viewpoints of both sides, much to everyone’s disappointment

What the betas thought weren’t issues apparently were and we’re sorry that we didn’t catch them sooner but what’s done is done and that can be done is wait for the update.

We’re human and we all make mistakes. We support you guys and we support the Devs because attacking either group for mistakes doesn’t help anyone make any progress.

“I am tired of hackers in pvp. I am tired of bonus actions when hackers and other players get multiple bonus actions with kami and stego.”
 
Will be fixed in the update.
 
“Most of all, I am tired of mods saying that these problems will be fixed in early January.”
 
It will be fixed as soon as Apple lets it be fixed. Maybe you should be tired of Apple holding everything back instead? Attack the right targets, please.

“Even nerdy developers should have anticipated the problems with just a day or two of testing.”

Doesn’t work that way. These bugs were introduced thanks to issues we weren’t able to test in beta (huge load, non-sandbox Game Center environment). 

“Even I could see a problem with timing eggs with little testing.”

Developers changed the eggs last minute on us, it wasn’t nearly as bad in beta testing… here, admittedly, the developers made a mistake. They also snuck those egg-exclusives in last minute as well… big mistakes, there. I can’t support this decision of theirs at all. 

“It is easy for the developers to say they will fix the problems of over poweried arks by nerfing their abilities. I have seen this in another game. The nerf is followed by the introduction of even more powerful creatures to stimulate spending.”

Actually, they didn’t intend for monsters to be as overpowered as they are. It wasn’t a scheme to get people to spend money. We’re all human, enough with conspiracy theories. Of course they need to make money, but they aren’t playing it that way. Don’t assume all game developers are the same and think the same way.

“I just wish that the mods at least had the perception that they showed more support for the players concerns instead of the developers profit.”

​Have you read any of my posts? I have all the monsters. I can time eggs. I should want egg timing to exist because I can do it. I should want bonus actions to not be capped because my whole team (just about) is rank S. I should not want ANY mission monsters to be released to anyone because I have them all, and I want to have an advantage! 

But that’s not how I am at all. I’ve been posting in support of the players in general the whole time I’ve been on this forum. I support everything that would give all players a fair chance at getting everything in the game. 

Of course, as a game developer myself, I do understand the need for money. We make a living doing this, and living is expensive. You need to buy food, electricity, heat, internet service… as much as we all would like to do it all for free, we have to make a living. 

I’ve always stated, though, that integrity should be kept when doing so. No deception, no misleading, and no making it pay-to-win. 

If you want my opinion, in-app purchases should only be used for something such as (as two examples):

-Visual aesthetics (different avatars, specially colored Arkadions, etc.)

-Speeding things up (getting monsters faster, but not having any exclusive monsters). 

Bottom line is the developers are trying hard to get things fixed. They understand the issues as much as you do. They have made some mistakes, and they’ll learn from those mistakes like we do as humans.

How about this:

Stop attacking each other.

Yeah, that’s what you’re doing. Someone complains about HI and suddenly they get attacked. And soon they attack back, and it just gets into a disgusting mess.

I’m not saying I’m innocent or guilty of this. I’m just saying this has to stop. The simple solution would be to get the people to stop attacking the users that express their dissatisfaction. And for the people who express their dissatisfaction, to not post their complaints anyway.

I’m sorry to be harsh but I’m not sorry for trying to stop this. This is not coming from a moderator. This is coming from just another member of the community who is sick of feeling this tension in the atmosphere. 

Please, guys. Please stop fighting. If you have a complaint then please PM it to someone. Please don’t post on an thread that has nothing to do with it, and please, please, please don’t make an entire thread on it.

If you have a concern, PM the devs. If they don’t answer, then why do you post it public? Who can help you, then? The moderators surely can’t. Not all of them are devs. They are just normal members like everyone else. Their job is to protect the forum and keep it safe. Their job is not to fix the game or speed up the update or whatever.

That’s all I have to say. My two cents. Good day/night.

Look, if people are going to express dissatisfaction with my behavior as a moderator, I expect that it’s actually valid dissatisfaction. I refuse to be attacked over things I don’t do.

Now, about the game, I think it’s important to let people know:

  1. Information regarding the future of the game in how it relates to the dissatisfaction, and
  2. Reasons for why the game is how it is, and
  3. Why complaining may be doing more bad than good.

I’m not “attacking” people, I’m explaining these above points to people. If people express dissatisfaction, we can discuss it just like we can discuss anything else. And that’s what we’ll do.

Tbh people having kami is not as bad as people abusing stego/charca combo. At least vs kami, you still have a fighting chance, where as stego/charca you can just sit and die. You can only scramble maybe 1 out of 4 matches. So, obviously you will lose more than win vs these abusers.

I created a thread to expose these abusers and one mod closed it. Seriously? Really? … Exposing abusers is the right thing to do because in the long run, they will stop using the combo because people will know who they are. A mod defending an abuser with the excuse of ‘it is in the game - so they have the right to use it’. … that argument is as stupid as it gets. Let them use it then. Let them be the reason that the game you play will die sooner than later.

Such an amazing strategic game, ruined by a few abusers.

Just this morning alone I have faced 3 different stego/charca teams. Also look at current leaderboards, #1 and #6… those two I always encounter in PvP.

I closed it because this is supposed to be a welcoming, friendly community and calling people out for using a strategy is counterproductive to that idea.  

As much as we hate the Stego+Charc combo, it is by technicality a legitimate strategy.  

To you, it sounds stupid but we don’t attack people for using a strategy, no matter how much we dislike that strategy.  it’s the cheapest strategy in the game but its there and is a legitimate strategy.

yes, you have every right to complain about said users but making a list showing people who use a strategy and to avoid them at all cost, on top of the fact you can’t really avoid them in PVP, is not the best method

public shaming doesnt work

ok… Ashley,  i have found you to be honest, helpful and very much in support of players.Myself i have given HI a break due to a few reasons… stega+char combo being one. I have spent a fair bit of money on the game ( been happy to do so as it supports a game I enjoy). But i have been frustrated to get the same normal things  time after time as i cannot for the life of me time eggs… Things are  being changed… ashley has stated this and im waiting to see them implemented… Thanks to everyone who helps on this game… thanks also to everyone who plays and helps out in the forums :slight_smile:

No complaints for you. I think we really need more players like you! I guess we all want to make this game to become a better community with love also with challenges :slight_smile:

Most are hackers. I’m ranked #38 and not even close to getting him. I have just under 300,000 points.

Nowadays, I have been facing more kami users than in the past :confused: … just lost to one using kami + stego/charca. He killed my win-streak…

Try getting DC’d all the time, eddster. :stuck_out_tongue:

80% of my losses are from glitches. 10% are from BA bull. Depressing, really.

Some people have put forth a request to allow an optional reset of our PvP stats when the update comes out. I’d definitely do it.