Enough is enough, you should assume some form of responsibility!

[DonT89]

Well this thread is born from the fact that some players keep having too much “bad luck” to be just randomized.

[ArcticTheHunter]

Well then give me a recording of all of them and we can talk

[Randolph]

Everyone in NM who played long enough knows what bad luck is and how it feels. It’s not exclusive to some chosen players.

[Lacktwo]

@ArcticTheHunter

If you really want to prove anything, record every hatch you do. Get the devs to confirm that you didn’t leave any out(they almost certainly keep logs). Keep doing this for ~10000 packs, and you MIGHT have a large enough sample size to prove something. Yes, that is 10000 with 4 zeros because it takes a massive sample size to prove anything of note with such a low probability. And in the mean time, check your knowledge of statistics because this

That is just wrong in so many ways…
You guys are repeatedly mentioning this but the banners aren’t uniform throughout the game(whether we like it or not). Sure you guys are mentioning only the Probability stand point but you forget a critical thing, the Demand and Supply.
Not all banners are same in the sense the demand(the pulls) for an S tier Mythic banner are much higher than say something like an f tier Mythic like Medbie. And even when people do pull in such banner its usually because of a Legendary so your simplistic Probability speech definitely doesn’t account for “variable change”.
So Definitely there have to be some banners which would be very easy and most would likely be tough based on that. Especially if you are aiming for high tiered mons for which every other player might be aiming as well.

[ArcticTheHunter]

@Lacktwo

Sure you guys are mentioning only the Probability stand point but you forget a critical thing, the Demand and Supply.

How is supply and demand critical? His complaint is that he isn’t getting enough mythics/featured mythics on the banners that he DOES hatch, so the ones that he doesn’t hatch because they feature an F tier can be ignored

[ArcticTheHunter]

@Lacktwo

That is just wrong in so many ways…

SO THEN LIST THEM INSTEAD OF SAYING THIS AND ONLY MENTIONING ONE!!!

[Exu]

Calm down!

[NMEduck]

@NMEduck

Let’s analyze the potential risks and benefits of the devs faking the hatching odds.

The risks are quite simple. If they fake the hatching odds and get caught, the devs will face serious legal repercussions and the game will instantly die. I’m pretty sure that just about everyone here wouldn’t hesitate to delete neo if someone proved that the odds were fake.

Assuming the devs are not idiots, we can logically conclude that they would only take such a risk if they had much to gain (i.e. money) and/or there was little chance that they would get caught.

The problem with this is that lowering the hatching odds might not even make players spend more.

The devs could hope that it would cause players to keep spending more gems until they eventually get what they want, but the extra money gained from this could just as easily be cancelled out by the increase in players who get discouraged when they continuously get bad luck.

In summary, it makes no logical sense for the devs to fake the hatching odds when the potential benefits don’t even come close to justifying a risk this bad. It would be much more profitable to release things like guaranteed mythic eggs that can only be opened with paid gems or give out more rewards to keep players interested in the game.

@DonT89 do you have any response to this or not really?

[Dudor]

The main problem arrived since they changed the egg system. The most frustrating thing is to pay with real money to get nothing in return.

I stopped spending a few month ago because of that, deciding to put 100€ for example to get 4 packs full of useless epics et superepics is really annoying.

[Randolph]

What I am reading here?

This is so sad.

0.75 % chance is 0.75 % chance no matter if it’s a S or F tier Mythic. How do you guys even come up with this stuff?

[NME_BlackDragon]

So then, the fact that the odds aren’t fake exist. The claim that they should bring back a guaranteed system to make effort and money rewarded, and also increase revenue for the game also exist. @Dev_VKC, please bring back a guaranteed system so that people would be able to spend money and hard work on the game and get rewarded.
If @SHIKAOTOKO really got all those gems from saving up for a long time and other people spend so much money on the game and save up also, I think that it shouldn’t be like this. When I saw SHIKAOTOKO make so much hatches, it made me question whether or not my f2p self, even if I saved for an entire year without spending a single rare gem or gem; I won’t be able to awaken Azida, I have 1 shard for her, the same that SHIKAOTOKO had for sakuralisk.

[NMEduck]

@NME_BlackDragon

If @SHIKAOTOKO really got all those gems from saving up for a long time and other people spend so much money on the game and save up also, I think that it shouldn’t be like this. When I saw SHIKAOTOKO make so much hatches, it made me question whether or not my f2p self, even if I saved for an entire year without spending a single rare gem or gem; I won’t be able to awaken Azida, I have 1 shard for her, the same that SHIKAOTOKO had for sakuralisk.

That’s a much better argument to make. It’s insane that someone could save up 1400 gems and ~51% of the outcomes would end in two or less copies of a featured mythic.

[NME_BlackDragon]

Yes, I totally agree, videos like this just show you that impossible at this point.

[Randolph]

Odds modds. 7 star tickets would be the real deal.

[Dane]

Sorry 100$ ain’t gon get you nothing. I spent 800+ $ to awakened Nikki and lillithia

[Dane]

I could have bought some Gucci slides with thst

[DonT89]

What ■■■■ my wallet is that I am a lot into collecting if I would have rolled only for S tier monster I would have saved a lot

[Yakuza]

Damn your luck bad.

[Yakuza]

Just a tip for F2P players going for myth. Roll 10 pack. If you get a shard from them than roll another 10 pack. If you don’t than stop. That how i go for myth. I roll 10 pack at a time and if i don’t get a shard i stop no matter how many gems or how much money i have to spend

[TNCXWHITEXROSE]

If this is so for the p2w that can be expected for the f2w that we have to spend months ago it is true that the temple helps us a little but look at this situation now. It is time for it to be implemented a pity counter for the good of the community and so that cases like this do not happen again because inaginenese I have spent a year ago to have x amount of gems to awaken a myth and for this to happen to me I think it would be very frustrating to the point to abandon this game this is my humble opinion