Get yourself an alyce
And just kill it 
uts usualy played with poison anyways so the chance of her entering posioend on a astra like 99%
after all these years of playing the game i know it’s just a hopeless cry, they won’t nerf them. the best way is to own it (Astra). when you can’t counter it, let your opponent figure out how to do it
Unlike you, that chinese player who’s always passive aggressive, and others who are “not too fond of talking about nerfs”, I have been ringing the alarm about the too powerful entrance mythics. If we keep getting things like Alyce and Pandora (especially prenerf version, I think now she is above average strong death revenge monster while before she was above average death revenge Leira with stun immunity), every team will look like: you > roaring entrance kill something, op response > roaring entrance kill something, you > roaring entrance kill something, op > random mojinator exit the field and roaring entrance kill something, etc etc…
Anyway, in terms of design I’m enjoying the hell of the game (recent designs of looks or skills) but careful of creating entrance monsters that cover every weakness that are similar to it.
All of this started when they completely gutted Bastia by making it easy for players to just drop Nightingale in front of entrance spam teams.
Here’s how it unfolded:
→ A new entrance-based legendary, Rhino, was on the way, so they tried to push Bastia out of frontline by changing her passive from Hold Ground to Shield Entrance
→ That backfired, since she ended up negating her own entrance
→ They reverted her back to Hold Ground, but by then Nightingale had been buffed, letting players ignore Bastia entirely by placing her before entrance monsters, usually Tenguko
At this point, it’s nearly impossible to keep Bastia alive or protect her from being Knocked Back. Gravity Field only adds to her limitations, and with so many high-speed, first-turn KB monsters around, the style is just not playable anymore.
This is what a heavy control team using Bastia used to look like just a year ago:
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Astra is technically weaker than Pandora. It can be ignored and left as dead weight but it requires a heavy price and you need specific monsters with a specific skill to disable it. Pandora does not have this problem and in addition she can make entry combos
I would say that time freeze completly disables a pandora, especily now that she cant reconvert boxes into new boxes to charge herself, a shame just about all time freeze monsters suck
Huskegon: 
Well, you don’t even take into account the SS lmao. It’s possible to ignore it by removing the poison, but you’ll have to assume your SS and for that have total control. Killing him 4 times is not an option because on the 3rd life it’s very likely that he’ll get ahead of the monsters you planned for him and the 4th time is worse.
Yeah thats why i said “just about”
time freeze blocks pandora ok and now? the monsters that have this skill are crap, easy to eliminate by others with allies and honestly I have never seen a pandora enter at the moment when there is a monster with this skill
Yeah thats what i said, they do suck, dossent change that they are the supposed counter to her tho, and huskeon is alright, even if its kinda power crept as a stunner at this point
Well, it’s about time we released some good monsters with time freezes and the Decree of Mercy.
For Huskegon, frankly, I don’t see anything strong in him. You just have to push him back once he has used demonstrations of superiority and it’s game over for him. That’s why I agree with those who say that Haneri is superior.
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Astra is strong but from what I’m seeing, it looks B tier compared to what pandora and Alyce do.
On top of that, pandora and Alyce’s mechanics of stun and the constant GT to boxes make for a horrible game experience.
Candidly I don’t understand this part but I do apologize for not sounding alarms earlier 
Even albion needs a huge nerf. It’s busted but no one gonna talk. Most of the latest release are just busted.
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I don’t know man. Compared to the ones I mentioned, Albion don’t even hold a candle. This is the most ranked I’ve played in a while and it’s very clear to me that there’s a problem beyond what previously existed with Albion, Astra, and others that were getting brought up in here.
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This has been their pattern for months now. They release something clearly overpowered or a very average mythic and buff it shortly after to god tier, then follow up with a direct counter.
It is a clear sales strategy and it works. We saw it with the CW and Calamitas followed by Albion being released to shut them down. Now we are in the Astra phase and along comes Alyce with Void Detox Slash.
The biggest mistake was making Alyce’s second form nearly as oppressive as her awakened version. Obviously, more players managed to get the base copy which only made her impact more widespread and immediate.
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Its all the same nerf this nerf that its never buff this or that to the same level