Nyx clearly has weaknesses lol. I’ve already said all my thoughts on why nyx should be nerfed in previous threads. We’ll just have to see what happens after the next round of nerfs.
Yay whataboutism. Running a bunch of S tier mythics and strong support mons is obviously the best option. It’s what I like to do most of the time. Also what did you mean when you said “If it’s so dominant why only a few play them including me”? EDs have been all over the place ever since keiser was released.
I must have missed the part where soral automatically comes with five inkfeathers in your team and 30-use instant pullback moves.
When fast meta came same 50/55 mons get affected, when slow meta is running same 50/55 is affected,now new flower has arrived same 50/55 speed has been affected. Anything comes this moderate mons get fked badly. I request to concerned authority either give new mons less than 50 speed or more than 70.
You use Soral for a reason, ducky. I do too but I guess we can only be objective for things we aren’t using. If you didn’t think Soral was op af, you wouldnt be running it every season
Oh yeah true it becomes untergatable if you make the mistake of not focusing on killing it first since as soon as it takes its first turn. It’s also super easy to build around and or you can sac something useless for now. Don’t act like unnerfed tranq entrance SE is next to it because you wouldn’t mind sacrifing it if gravity field was on the field
It’s not really whataboutism if some stuff gets ignored or never talked about so I will take my chance to voice it since a lot of eyes are here
Why aren’t the most people who are extremely adamant on asking for a nerf on keiser is not playing EDs? I don’t really see them being used by most top rankers and when I face them I have no more trouble than someone running 14 tanky mythics back to back. So tell me, why aren’t the people who are convinced that is the strongest strategy right now aren’t playing EDs during ranked points system instead they go back to mythic spamming. It’s like we all want an easy to access viable strategy that we can’t just shut down with a single counter and don’t enjoy to play it ourselves to be nerfed to the ground so we can’t just spam whatever shiny new thing we pull.
@Cesar@IBERIAN@Myst@Draconis@NoelLemon2@PurpleHeart (and maybe a couple of others)
I’ve removed all the toxic posts from the grand champion thread and moved the later discussion here, minus some other toxic posts. Please DO NOT communicate like that with other forum members. Almost all of you are to blame for what was said so don’t feel like this is a “win” that the baddies were shut down. No moderator action is being taken, just this post and me groaning because I had to go through over 100 posts to decide what was worth keeping and what wasn’t. Any further toxicity will be removed and may result in a bigger wrist slap.
Guys, move on. Devs made up their mind that EDs will get nerfed. What’s going to happen exactly remains to be seen but just forget about it for now. Anyone complaining about other monsters needing a nerf just stop wasting your energy talking about EDs and make your points about them.
@Killerdog . In your “investigation” you said that the Eds had been buffed some time before Keiser’s release. What are you basing this on?
Ed Keiser was released on july 29 this year, in this video where I use Ed they are already in their current states so for you 7 months difference is not a significant difference?
Nyx is slightly overrated because it usually gets 3 out of 4, but you’re often forced to kill one of the 3 increased TU mons and then the impact feels small, especially if the opponent has any form of removal.
Having said that, I do think it punishes 50-60 speed harshly. I think the fermatta TU should scale. So only a 50% increase for 50-60. 75% increase for 60-70 and the rest at 100%
In version 2.42 they got the pullback move 50TU → 1TU. At some point this year they had their moves’ damage buffed to deal significantly more damage. Your video barely shows any attacks from them, but I can see that it was before this time. I think the buff came in either April or May (one of the two updates before Keiser was released). This damage buff matters significantly for the earth E.D. and potentially for the holy E.D. (for non-100% HP attacking).
In my opinion, the 1TU moves made them strong and worth running then the damage buff made them genuinely powerful and top tier PvP viable.
Or my suggestion which is to make Nyx only affect enemy monsters who are 60%+ while forcing her to run 49% and below. This would not create new unwarranted synergies with nyx while makes her not counter 50-60% speed. Nyx is always meant to be a turn 2 monster so I don’t know why this would make her any worse.
Just a suggestion for people who think nyx punishes 50-60% speed. I don’t really care tbh I don’t think nyx is that strong. It’s the millions of other 2-3 life mythics that are the problem with insane sweeping power that you run with her.
Please quote those myths that are run with her. And I mean the actual strong Nyx combos if there are so many of them.
And don’t say that you don’t know it because you don’t own and don’t play Nyx yourself.
This special Rule I am running the new leggy and I haven’t lost to any Nyx team so far so maybe she is not that good anymore . I want to see hundreds of post about nerfing the new leggy because it punishes any frontline that is faster than 25% now.
We’ll have to see what happens to it when Katmander returns to its glory. By the way, I’ve been watching your videos on Youtube and I’m only impressed by one thing, this demon flower is quite difficult to counter, I mean, your FL monsters have speeds below 30%. It’s not like in the case of Fermata, where with average speeds of up to 49% you can do a good job against Nyx. So I literally bet that in almost all PVP this plant sends the opponent back several seconds. The developers keep betting on dealing with super fast FL, but I think that now even Nyx has fallen short. But good for you that you have taken advantage of the potential of the new legendary.
If you are asking this, you didn’t understand what I was saying.
I do agree some players will complain but I don’t think the flower FL is as strong as Nyx. Unlike Nyx, flower legend can be countered by running an already good 99% monster like Unicera or you can do the opposite and play 1 really slow monster like strawbaba at +0 entrance speed. I think that is really cool that a FL monster while being strong and viable, it’s also counterable but not completely “destroyable” (It’s in quotes because it’s probably not a real word so for the lack of a better word :p).
Nyx doesn’t have many counters (but she doesn’t need it as the devs have started to release good monsters that are both good against fast FLs and also resiliant against Nyx). Flower FL also is more widely accessable because it’s a legend so it’s cool in my eyes. (again so is nyx. I changed my opinion on her months ago) so overall she will have more uses and still better if you have more resiliant fast sweepers to play at slot 5-6-7.
At this point , it comes across as an agenda for so aggressively defending nyx by coltraz .
Nyx is just a menace . One can’t run a slow FL just to counter nyx nor be go unpunished for running a fast FL. Glad they reverted kattmander .
One soft balance would be to make stealth be not affected by fermata. It would open up possibilities to stop her rather than just katt. For example, the water cat girl with instant purifying mist
. I want to see hundreds of post about nerfing the new leggy because it punishes any frontline that is faster than 25% now.