Pve is never big of a problem . You can just win using absolutely almost no mythic.
Agreed
There is no comparison between Daji and any other monster into he game, like I said, take out all her active skills, people would still use a version of her with only SS and passives in high PVP ranking games and Daji would do well.
The buff it got was unnecessary, they literally buffed a monster that was a top 10 most used monster in PVP, in what game other than NM do you see this happening.
She was getting a lot of use too in PVP where you an day she is even better and that is before the buff too.
Daji is literally a PvE mythic though…
And talking UC, I genuinely worry that she might make ties with 100% win rate become common
This…
I can confidently say I’m not winning pvp just because I use Daji lol
I always keep 1 or 2 super epics in my team because of her. It’s frustrating that so many players rely on her, since she literally makes the difference between winning and losing in mid-level PvP. Her impact is so strong that it shapes strategies and turns every match into an uneven fight.
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We don’t want to make Daji weaker in PvP.
How about making the monster she copies not come with PvE buff?
Horrowclaw and Cryptblade used to work this way.
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How about you ignore annoying crybabies? PvE is the most boring part of this game and if you nerf daji in anyway, I will genuinely quit this game. I’m being genuine.
Hold on.. I thought her passive is one of the factors to make PvE more boring..
For other users here…
Daji is a fun and relatively healthy monster, in our opinion.
Players actually have to use their brains to play her or to play against her.
My suggestion is to reduce her HP to a certain point and she can be ignored in many situations. If you have Daji, you should try to Seduce the enemy’s Daji first.
The idea is to force the Daji player to rely on the RNG move, so either the opponent rage quits or you do.
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She is okay. Let’s not take a decent Anniversary mythic from people.
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She is fine as is. She doesn’t make PvE anymore easy or harder than a unit like Carmillette. If we start nerfing units especially mythics because of PvE than I expect huge nerfs to other top tier PvE units like Chronotitan. I’m tired of KD getting top spot in UC because of Chronotitan and still complaining about other units.
Also, Cyberoach… I hate that PvE unit (to face) but you don’t see me complaining about it because I’m sure there are players who love playing it.
Exactly. I love her design
I find it very hard to know how she’s performing in PvP. I trust your judgement on that. I find her very situational when I meet her… sometimes annoyingly good and sometimes they lose because of her. My only worry with PvP is if she is too strong against weaker players, but like I say I find that very hard to figure out.
As for the copies not coming with PvE buff… my gut reaction was “this will kill her off in PvE”, but actually I guess she will still probably be good in UC because many monsters do not care about being buffed. I reckon that will balance her for UC, but make her far weaker in other PvE content where the copied enemies might be useless. Honestly, I worry that might be too drastic or upset people and I don’t want to encourage that. I would either prefer some other change or to wait and see how future UC goes and future PvP to figure out whether she does need any tweak and therefore know better what would be best.
I haven’t used Chronotitan in a very long time, and I used other things to get top before that. I only switched to Chronotitan when we needed to do lvls 2000+ quickly. Now there is unlimited team cost the meta has shifted drastically and there are much better things to be doing than Chronotitan.
I complained about Daji because when it was already a top PvE monster and being top 10 most played in PvP it received a buff… one that made it borderline broken in super buffed PvE and probably a big problem for some people to face in PvP. To me it seems obvious that buff should not have happened. I spoke out against it very strongly before it happened, when they suggested it along with other ideas (the others I backed).
PvP aside, I know people like you will belittle PvE but many of the players enjoy it and as someone very familiar with UC I know what the battles are like to do and which monsters feel strong. Daji feels absurdly strong. As I said before, my team went from being comfortable wins almost all the time and the risk of a few losses, to those tricky battles becoming easy and 100% win rate feeling like it will be achievable every UC unless there’s a crazy edge case battle or meta shift. I noted the higher scores across top players, partly due to Daji. If this was happening in PvP you can bet every PvP player would be scared and complaining.
That said, I don’t want to impose competitive UC upon the rest of the playerbase. So I bring it all up mainly as a “I’m worried about this” rather than demanding any change. The suggestion to revert the buff was for the points above, i.e. more broadly rather than just a UC thing.
Her being an anniversary mythic is the reason why it got the unnecessary buff, because while she was being used in almost every team in PVP then, people here were crying about it being weak, and being useless, so devs buffed it and we got to where we are now.
Mythics should be balanced based on how popular they are and how much usage they are getting not based on how many people have rolled for these mythics and how many people own them
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She’s not even in the top 10 mythic characters of the game, I don’t know why they’re asking for a nerf to her instead of Withara or Vivien.
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No fun in a mythic monster that can be used by simply pressing the Ss button and just wait for it to be killed, so you would get 2 new monsters, and surprise Daji is back again because the ss is an unlimited cloning machine, oh and did you know it it immune to both stun and sleep.
Not enough, she has a death roulette pro max move that cannot hit her, so she is really viable at the end of the battle too, and she has a low TU move that will grant the user valuable seconds that might be the turning point for the whole battle.
Yeah a fun monster, this monster would remain a top PVP and pve monster without its secret skill and it’s active skills, basically it’s a mythic monster that gets you two monsters, for free, I mean nothing in the game is as good or as boring and as braindead.
A top tier monster by existing, just being in the battle field with just two passives doing nothing makes her a top 15 monster in PVP and top 5 in pve
By the way, Mojinator was an anniversary festival legendary back in the days, years later still unusable, back then it was it or Delugazar.
So not sure what Daji being an anniversary monster has to do with balancing this game.
Should the balance changes be a popularity contest that we vote for what monsters we like and devs buffs, or Devs buffs the top 10 most used monsters each month of the season, because balancing the game works like that, and I am sure it will be fine and will not break the game.
Daji users should start demanding for her to get 2 clones with the Ss, because she is an anniversary mythic so come on guys, 2 clones won’t hurt right, or maybe 3, like 4 is balanced, who said 5, aright 6 it is then, so 7 clones, and make the ss a 1 second move, and the clones are at full heath.
Dajo buff for next update confirmed
Don’t worry, they’ve got you covered. Let me introduce you to Thalazaar
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Yess this
I am abs fine if u actually build arnd daji whim , daji <30% hp move and seduce
What I don’t like is how u can just throw daji anywhere with nephy / auro and call it a day same like roach with nephy
She will still be a top S+ pve mons even with copied stats nerf
2nd form tenguko even without the ability to copy full stats is still very good in UC .
Hmm, just leave her there and ignore her. this seems to be your answer for everything. do you even participate in pvp?? just ignore Daji? this is you golden advice for all the players running into the many teams using Daji?
This was your Thalazaar advice: “Just leave it until you have void or until the end…”
Will this also be your advice on how to deal with Melusine? Just leave her until you have void or until the end?
Daji is terrible in pvp because opponent just clones, and the clones comes in and immediately clones. that’s it. no thinking, no anything. Sure, The person AGAINST Daji has to use brain power before it clones too many times and has to think of a way to deal with it before she clones and clones again.
Make her cloning requirement based of MAX HP. it doesn’t even have to be 50. how about 40% max hp cost to clone? just so she actually requires some “thinking” to use her and not just clone and immediately come in and clone again. Clone.
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Yes, I totally agree. Daji is extremely annoying, and let’s not even talk about her Whim skill, which kills a random monster and heals herself. She can dismantle your best monsters by reducing their HP to just 1, which is infuriating.
The worst part is the endless clones, which create huge frustration. And honestly, there’s no safe way to deal with her unless you bring revenge break or void attacks, and very few monsters actually have those tools. In PvE it might feel meaningless, but in PvP she’s worse than a pain in the ■■■. xd