Which monster do you want to see Buffed 🥳

[Mr.X]

Actually your wrong, it will be a huge counter to her and all other revenge monsters such as dameule, arachnadiva, tengoku+timberlord infinity spam

One of the reasons that these revenge monsters look strong is because there is no real punishment

[NoelLemon2]

I didn’t say it wouldn’t be a huge counter, I said it would be an unnecessary counter to her (but I see there 2 other and timberlord). The problem here is tho that won’t change how he works against those monsters especially tengoku because of how fast she is and giving stun counter + stealth ignore would be too on the nose for the devs to make such a counter. Do they think those monsters need a heavy counter like him? If not, this discussion won’t matter because at that point he wouldn’t be buffed this way (if he needs any) since this would not change his function nor reduce his use.

Edit* PS: this is coming from someone who owns non of the death revenge monsters above but owns mechangelion. I love using him when there is the meta but again, I just don’t want him to become a heavy counter to something and when that’s not meta anymore and he was buffed in a way that gave him a weakness (like stun counter), he would lose his flexibility of being able to survive on the field for so long and not die unless he is targeted heavily like with generic piercing damage moves.

[Mr.X]

Yeah i do believe we need a heavy counter, its a pillar that will serve balance for now and future power creeped monsters and save the headache of these nerf this nerf that thread

[NoelLemon2]

Pandora won’t be countered by him though even if he is buffed like you ask her to be (which is the only monster here who has been asked for nerf). Her use would not even drop if they removed the death revenge and kept the reviving box passive.

[Mr.X]

She will be countered by him specially we will see a shift were players will have to be more tactical when using her and they cant just make boxes because they could be dead weight, or his soul move removes pandora leaving a box behind as dead weight

[NoelLemon2]

Here is a buff idea for mechangelion that would be a huge counter to Pandora: Stun bisector passive > Demobilized Zone

Demobilized Zone: Stun bisector and Time Freeze

[PurpleHeart]

@NoelLemon2

Demobilized Zone: Stun bisector and Time Freeze

i like this

[Unown]

Still doesn’t make sense to just ignore stealth.

@Mr.X

But in order to stop this bombard of nerf requests towards revenge monsters and protectors in future, how about boosting the counters that were once meant to counter.

@Mr.X

I guess you enjoy hearing all the cries about nerfing monsters all day instead of taking the appropriate approach to make counters.

@Mr.X

Instead of nerfing monsters why we dont buff monsters to actually perform in a way that balance the game, and its much more welcomed by the players than having what they spent on nerfed after a month or two

Also you really have a tendency to repeat things?

[AFK_LAVA]

I hate time freeze. Husky nerf pls lol

[NoelLemon2]

Kanka valla Mortilys sayesinde bizim ateşli kuşumuz nerf yiyebilir Mortilys yerine

[AFK_LAVA]

Sorma ya ulan masum masum mid’de kullanıyordum geldiler mortilys fl’ye yerleştirdiler Allah’ım ya

[AFK_LAVA]

DM’de Neo dedikodusu yapalım @NoelLemon2

[Killerdog]

I was over 100 posts behind in this thread. Just caught up… and lost my mind. The only explanation I can think of is that the power creep has gone off the rails in the game that people are starting to think like the most wild and overpowered buffs are now feasible. It’s clear everyone has very different ideas about which monsters should be buffed and how, that will never change. However, I truly hope that the Devs properly stand by their post here saying they’re going to be more careful with their power creep.

By the way, are we really talking about buffing Mechangelion? That monster is crazily good. Right now it’s even bugged so the support move not only stealths and purifies your team but also practically fully heals them. The healing is bugged, it heals 2x what it should. That’s a nuts move with any defence buff monsters. It’s also stun protection, void sweeping arguably the best protector counter in the game and has no killer weaknesses. It DOES NOT need a buff. If anything, the bug needs fixing.

P.S. Sorry to speak in this way. I promise I’ll cool off in later posts. I’ve been reading through the latest ~1000 posts on the forum and it’s been a lot of wild takes from people so it’s got me hot and bothered.

[Herr_Loki]

@Killerdog

Sorry to speak in this way.

Not taken, u couldn’t say it better.

[Dev_VKC]

@Killerdog

The healing is bugged, it heals 2x what it should. That’s a nuts move with any defence buff monsters. It’s also stun protection, void sweeping arguably the best protector counter in the game and has no killer weaknesses. It DOES NOT need a buff. If anything, the bug needs fixing.

We totally overlooked this bug…
Was this mentioned somewhere else before?

[GMagic]

Oh great, nice going KD.

For what it’s worth, it’s been like this for a long time and Mechangelion is far from dominating the meta. You’re not going to see him in a pvp team hardly ever these days, certainly not the top competitive ones. Does that bug really need to be fixed?

[EMI_Eklypz]

Nope.

[Coltraz]

Actually he reported that a long long time ago, even talked with me to verify it is the case.

To be honest - it does not change much as you want to play this monster with HG ones anyway.

[Killerdog]

@Dev_VKC

We totally overlooked this bug…
Was this mentioned somewhere else before?

I mentioned it on the forum tagging you and reported it in a DM, multiple times of each I think. I reported it almost as soon as the move was originally introduced. It’s the same for the weaker version of the move which is on Mechangelion 2nd form and on Mojinator.

@GMagic

Does that bug really need to be fixed?

Don’t be a salty bug exploiter. The move is crazy when you compare it to any other healing/purify/stealth move. It’s very overpowered in PvE, both for players and for the enemy teams.

[Mr.X]

I always thought thats how it suppose to work, the monster is bad in todays game that you dont see it played at the top levels anymore