I agree with killer on every point he made.
I really wish I had Azra now so I could record some battles and see how my opponents deal with it. It probably wouldn’t win as many matches as people think, especially when encountering opponents with unusual front lines.
I mean just the fact that all HG monsters will survive and camouflage monsters avoid big sweeping front lines like this means there’s plenty you can do to avoid getting devastated. Sure, they’ll kill some of your monsters but not instantly put you into a losing position.
Aurodragon is a pretty funny counter actually. Put it with Hellfox or otherwise a good team and Aurodragon survives on 1HP, probably reincarnating a few monsters easily. When Azra uses his double bloodcrave to kill Auro he may even reincarnate another… so Azra would probably use Zealous attack or something.
P.S. One of the ideas I suggested to the Devs is adding a fire legendary with toxic killer and “cannibal killer”. This would have high damage and high speed (also meaning it will die easily). Cannibal killer would deal critical damage against any monster that can sacrifice itself or others.
The main idea of this monster was to counter Geo but it would also be a counter to Azra (who I figured would become very strong with this link update). Making it fire element means it would be good for killing Geo and it would make toxic killer extremely useful (lack of water poison monsters) but also this would mean it couldn’t one-shot Ziberius.
There are a few more things about it but those are the relevant bits to Azra. If they bring this monster out it will be a hard counter to the Azhubris front line strategy.
Alright fine I’ll throw my hat into the ring.
First up, nothing needs nerfing. I’m still on the fence about azra but mainly because of the double bloodcrave more than anything, which sets up a little too fast for my liking. Zhulong is good but by no means broken in the same way that deo is good but not broken. Simply put, you can build against it. As annoying as it is to face there are counters that are reasonable to use. Of course this is the first pvp with zhuzel in it so not many will build against it hence it’s going to have a high winrate.
I don’t have any of the monsters but I’ve faced a lot of variations on it, the strongest being choc talo azra zhu, and what stands out is how reliant it is on that sneak all. Not only is delugazar a pretty lethal counter but just poking and denying that stealth with something like polarboss more or less stops their frontline dead.
The thing is despite that weakness it’s pretty hard to punish, hence even when countered it’s still somewhat effective
Thank you Buckingham! Even if it pulls off sneak attack all it can get shut down pretty easily. That’s why I like having Soulstealer in the team to get a couple of the enemy monsters out of play so stealth can be kept on more reliably. This worked as a great PvE strategy but in PvP people find a way to get around everything. Azra still has that super fast double bloodcrave but he’s just been buffed to an S+ monster now in my opinion, not broken just one of the best.
Bro you especially should know this combo is not that bad it sounds to me like you’re just being a jerk.
Im running this strategy this pvp and I get countered a lot.
I just ran into a DR FL followed by shiva and a SE protector this was enough to counter me. ( FL was Cosmodragon, Nebel, Talo, and something else I can’t remember what)
There is no need for a nerf this strategy is not overpowered.
That combo forces most players to leave status quo, to leave their beloved team all this time. No slow fl anymore from now.
Every strong monster must have effective counter. Like rega, he becomes real counter for mecha and makes mecha powerless completely.
So, there must be real counter for that combo. Example:
Name: unknown
Element: unknown
Speed: 84
Active
- link catapult
- stealthbane
- bloothirst
- accelerate team
Passive
- camouflage
I give him speed 84 because skele will release next time.
I don’t think you understood what I was going on about it wasn’t the fact it was op or not i was having a go at the logic behind why it wasn’t needing to be nerfed. Also wanted people to consider hmm could it create a broken strategy what would it be like at +9 when we discuss it
Also death revenge leads are the desperate mans counter. So never are taken into consideration
Whoa whoa whoa
Lol you know that back when gazer was around people said it’s fine cause death revenge counters if you need death revenge to beat a combo it’s a little too strong
So it’s a flawed argument
I faced many Azra and Zhu leads this pvp and found nothing OP. Azra, zhu and tene leads are super good but not OP and counter able.
Only thing which may need a little nerf is Zhulong link stealth all move from 50 tu to 70 tu.
Nah we need to nerf azra back to lower speed, maybe 50-60ish? 
Azra speed is fine 78 ain’t that bad
I know, was teasing star since he loves his azra very much 
Make Ss azra only can be used after 100sec
Same as exit plan.
What do you take us for?