We need these mythics tweaked

Thats where your wrong,

Hes more tanky then sloth.
Has shield + HG

The only good thing about sloth over him is that sloth is stun immune and not weak to chrono killer move.

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Every monster is good in right setups. I think most people can agree here that they’d pick mammoth over mistle any time any day.

As of now, I will swap mistle with sloth with eyes closed.
And one thing which most people keep forgetting is, only 1 player has awakened mistletorment & Kami (@Thaiger) ,
And we don’t even know about those 7tickets shards ,
Bb will one shot mistle, there are so many chrono killers , dolphfreeze by far the best one, chromera, Delugazar, maggot, searguard,
And I haven’t even mentioned poison stops mislte quite easily.

Shield is so common now and his shield is ■■■■

Mistle need a buff. No doubt. I would choose titanmoth over him too.

Does it mean he should get an insane buff? No. Just tweaks.

Auto protect is rng as well, true.

Does it mean its a bad move? No. If so, lets buff stag, croc, titanmoth, sloth and any other common auto protector (and they are commom as heck, meaning they do a good job).

Auto protect plus is an insanly powerfull passive, especially on a monster with overwatch. Just look how good is aegis already, and imagine him with overwatch + making his desperate bite pass HG and shield. It god damn OP and you know it.

Buff mistle, but dont make him OP. Change the shield skill to something that gives value better then titanmoth and you will have a reason to choose him.

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Remember he is a mythic 12 cost and can’t be potted like titanomoth. Where is that an overkill? Where.

And if you guys complain about autoprotect plus why does nobody cry about diamonds are 1 cost aegis and only owned by top players to have an advantage out of it

I saw them only in top tier PvP matches and if you don’t have shadowwyrm in your FL it’s pretty much impossible to take out key monsters of the enemies

Wait, has anyone actually tried using legend pots on a middle stage Mythic?

(Like what you can do for chronox with SE pots in its middle stage)

Someone please confirm or deny if you can do this (cough @Thaiger)

You can’t

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Sorry buddy but you’re wrong lol

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Lol you can’t pot non awakened mythics

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If you keep him alive against certain setups. He’s a liability. For example. What happens when you have a poison gas spammer with shiva? Shiva doesn’t get an attack because he keeps purifying and then once it’s mistltoe’s turn and he’s poisoned, he can’t over watch and can only use shield which is 109 tu or desperate chomp uncharged.

So the ideal setup is
Mistletoe
Shiva
Utopian
Sweeper. (Best one is draco “defang” w/ purifying mist)

Shiva is practically only used to purify. If utopian is poisoned, he has to either skip if he can or gt to shiva. And then the sweeper if you’re lucky can pull off an attack And sweep if, and only if mistletoe decides to use his auto taunt.

On top of that, he’s susceptible to times up, assasinate, and like someone said, excessive force monsters and moves.

For you to say he’s perfectly balanced is obnoxious. As a mythic he’s a dang F-. For a legend, He’s a C+. For an SE, he’s an A.

I’ve tried many combinations with him. The only reason I’m using him now is because I want him on the field with kura at the same time. A mythic team lol. Other than that. He’s absolute deadweight. Not worth the points.

Not every monster has to be perfect in all scenarios.

Hes a tank monster that is suppose to defend.

He is weak to times up, (only two monsters have times up one is mythic monster and the other is a legendary). In other words your saying he is weak only to dolp since dolp right now is the only one with times up)

Keep in mind dolp will never be able to bring him to hg unless he tragets another chrono user.

Weak to chrono killer protect killer: Only BB and new fire mythic can one shot him other monsters will require 3-4 attacks to finsh him off note that he will proply get a turn and heal off before they do 4 attack.

Weak to posion: many monsters are weak to posion that does not mean they are bad, (utop,bitterbeast lord etc), you could always counter posion by playing purify if they are spamming gas why dont you spam purify and traget them with your other monsters.

I rather play se elephant thats your choose, se elephant wount stick around like him.

I agree that he is a tanky monster. My last game with @MonkeyDluffy proves that the tankiness can work against you.

The point is. He is more of a liability than an asset in most scenarios. Not only times up, but assasinate. And when he’■■■■■, he won’t even go into red to use his chomp. They can then use the move again and sweep another one of your monsters.

Utopian can stun absorb as well as bitter. Regardless of the situation, they are great at supporting.

Healing give turn - life flip friend - knockback next

Mistletoe only has shield - that isn’t a valid stall or support move.

Also unicorn will one shot him.

And 15-17 cost. The others ahmed mentioned not only are better but lower cost too

I think it’s only fair to assume that people against a mistletorment buff/tweak are insecure players

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Sloth was nerfed too before release. Please stop nerfing protectors before release

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You got him I’m guessing? If so what tier is it?
You can’t say an increase In it’s protect rate isn’t going to do anything because it’s RNG. If the rate is increased the monster will be improved. That’s just a fact. 80% is not bad.

Having that percentage increased to 80% will offer a protect percentage of at least 90% in actual gameplay scenarios because many players won’t take the risk of targeting other monsters while he is on the field. There are times when players don’t risk the RNG because they are better off attacking the Auto-protector with a move that will cause it more damage instead of a move like fast strike targeted at the dangerous monster a few seconds from having it’s turn.

The amount of times people didn’t bother trying for Chrono killer on my Mecha because an Auto-protector is on the field is a lot. The higher the percentage the more doubt in peoples minds. Let’s not disregard a percentage increase as nothing.

Am I wrong about asking it to be buffed? I did ask for a buff lol

I was referencing the comment above. So irrelevant with no comparison points and auto protect plus would not be overkill.

That statement I made was an abvious exaggeration. The point is, Poison screws up a lot of things in this game. My duscycon gets wrecked and all my monsters get wrecked so hard from posion once it’s gets going. I can’t complain about it and ask for buffs just because it’s a counter to my mons. I try and support Duscy with purifying monsters. Or try and kill of the posion as soon as possible.

Counters need to be dealt with.

Also, Thaiger when Nulltron got released I remember complaining about posion being so common and saying that if Nulltron had shield entrance it wouldn’t help much because of the auto posioners.

Back then you disregarded what I said and told me you don’t face much posion in your level of PvP. Now you are saying something almost identical to what I was saying…

Has the Meta changed since then? I’m guessing more poison now with pumpkin getting released? Honest questions. For me it’s Oak that I dread the most.

I can understand having a mythic that has counters can be annoying. It’s gonna keep happening with future releases though. I get the feeling that people expected mythics to be this almost unstoppable Force. Not going to happen. The same way super epics get released that a better than some legendaries in PvP same thing will happen to Mythics. Mythics in Pokemon are not all better than all common monsters for every situation :grin:

I still think he needs to be improved, but auto protector plus is to much IMHO

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