Btw I’m still puzzled as why are his killer moves 50sec. I’m pretty sure RAW isn’t as tampering a restriction as it used to be, such that it warrants a sec reduction. Same with Ahuizard’s case.
If this monster will EVER (press X to doubt) be touched, I think the best thing would be keeping his moveset intact but change the moves’ seconds.
To be fair if Instant True Hit was changed to Wallbreaker it would make Orca actually useable in buffed PvE events because Wallbreaker ignores Defense, HG, and Shields.
Just sayin
I’ll be honest here
I faced him once in PvP and can assure he’s not weak and not a lower bracket player
I agree, this type of nerf doesn’t make sense. Raw bloodcrave would be essential for protector locking and wallbreaker is just not it.
If this is implemented I think it would be a bit of buff since there are many jaguardion, suikenshi and delugazar frontlines. I’m just not sure tho and you can always use some pullback or something like that to activate camouflage when you’re done with stealthbaners/breakers.
50tu Slayerbane?
Remember when you were called envious for not having mythics and it was absolute nonsense?
Phantom is explaining his reasons, while the only thing you said is “Flocco counters it”. Big whoop, you know how many things does Orca counter on top of having Stun Immune + Slayerbane so it’s never dead weight?
If 3 nerf threads have been opened already there must be a reason.
I thought orca didn’t need a nerf at first because I thought it had good set of powers against meta units but I realised this guy just straight up buffed the “spam S+ Stun immunte” team and had no requirement to set-up and he has 72% (Im pretty sure it is??), why do these stun immune monsters are always so freaking fast?
,oke this is special.but we have monster with 1sec slayerbane 
,cmon if he use slayerbane to our monster, we can use slayerbane or retribution to him instead
Orca is very good but not game breaking. I think changing instant true hit, to regular true hit would be enough
When smugsmodia opened this topic initially , i took the stance to judge padri after a few pvp days and now I think I can give a valid opinion.
Yes , it’s insanely strong .
I agree with wall breaker and camouflage entrance ( although this would affect it less since people pair it with dusci anyways ) .
I do not support swapping raw since raw move set is that monster’s design …
every player said stun imunity is more better then stun converter,why we not give him stun converter instead stun immune(only joke)
Completely agree. Very fast Stun Immunity sweepers shouldn’t exist and yet we have Magmarinus, Padrinorca, Ahuizard and Scorpiogeist. But at least Scorpiogeist has two major killer weaknesses.
A good example of Stun Immunity sweeper who is S tier for the right reasons is Dracorosa. Extremely powerful but (at least in my opinion) not a game-changer nor an unfairly oppressive monster. Jaguardian too, even though Retribution strats are kinda annoying.
Well dracorosa can be a deadweight when there is no poison and fire monsters on the enemy team
purifying mist is annoying I’d sometimes rather kill him even with no targets.
Not really, mist is 99% of the time always useful
Not if u pair him with motodragon
But players always have a stealth bane monster in their team making mist like a suicide (this is the 1% not usefull:joy:)
I agree. I think Dracorosa is one of the most overrated monsters in the game. Easy deadweight. Purifying mist is helpful, but if you have the odd shell, Bitter beast or any other deadweight in the team it soon becomes 4-2
I don’t think that unit is overrated at all. the only reason it might suck now because of that ugly bastard with STEALTHBREAK and focus?? who thought that was a good idea?
Take stun imu from him and everything will good 