Duck please drop it. We agree thereās an issue here and the name being reported is correct.
This forum is global so we end up with people from different cultures who are more/less sensitive about stuff or simply havenāt experienced it. The N-word is an incredibly charged word in the USA, but not elsewhere. So donāt take insult when people seem a bit surprised how sensitive Americans are to it, because it is a little surprising to some of the rest of us. Whatās important is we still agree itās inappropriate to use this word in a name and weāre aware of how bad itās perceived by some countries. I.e. Your opinion is heard, we just donāt all have exactly the same perspective on it.
Iām not taking insult to any of this, Iām mostly just puzzled that youād think NGGR could be some acronym instead. I looked it up and all I could find was Non-Glucogenic/Glucogenic Ratio. Honestly, I really donāt see how NGGR McStain could be a more obvious slur without getting blocked by the name filter. It had gone unnoticed by the devs for literally years so I felt it was necessary to bring it to their attention.
I brought it up because you seem to be rather selective in your cultural sensitivity. Iām pretty sure I didnāt sound upset in my first post yet you went ahead and said that people seem to be getting too sensitive about this stuff.
Edit: And to be even more clear, I take zero offensive to this ign on a personal level. However, I do recognize that this ign is definitely meant to be a slur that many people do find offensive instead of some random acronym in the same sense that loki clearly intended his swastika to be of nazi origin rather than Hindu.
Honestly, people could create some random clan names that you could never guess and thatās what I thought might have happened.
Selective? Wtf? I was not āculturally sensitiveā in the other case (I would have kept it up) and also in this case I gave the guy the benefit of doubt? Turning that against me took some serious mental gymnastics.
Also after doing some research I think Iāve figured out where he got the name. Itās probably from a Dave Chappelle skit which exposes how silly racism is. However, in that case there is no doubt what NGGR refers to.
Cultural differences would account for a rather large number of people taking offensive to someone having the n word in their ign. Thatās a similar principle as cultural sensitivity although I did misremember which term you used.
Have you really not seen the word nig**r posted online or said out loud? If you didnāt know who I was and I made my ign āCHINK duckā would you assume Iām referring to a racial slur or give me the benefit of the doubt? Maybe that just stands for my clan name representing some of my favorite monsters: Canishogun, Houdinoid, Infernicorn, Naāturgoul, and Keeperdragon. That example seems just a bit more ridiculous than someone coincidentally making a clan named NGGR
Lol, chink is a bad example because it could also be an onomatopoeic word describing a certain sound
I know how the word sounds and again, I never denied it could be the n word. I just donāt approach these situations the same way as you do. I know we live in an era where people go against eachother guns blazing with allegations, before all the necessary information is known. Context matters. If there is any doubt, I always think at first that maybe it was some kind of mistake.
I donāt mind giving the benefit of the doubt but I do feel there comes a limit to it where the possibility of there being some misunderstanding is so low.
Why does that make it a bad example? That gives the person using the slur a second excuse for someone to give them the benefit of the doubt and allow them to keep using the ign. It wouldnāt be the first time someoneās gotten away with using a racial slur by claiming they didnāt have any malicious intent.
It was a bad example from your part as you said there wasnāt any doubt about what NGGR could signify. Also, if you used it like McStain here did, it would be CHNK which could be something entirely different than a racial slur.
Anyway, in the McStain case I think itās best that itās censored.
I thought one of the reasons chink was chosen as a slur was because itās āan onomatopoeic word describing a certain soundā that racists could say to asians while making their eyes really narrow. In any case, the reason I chose it was because Iām asian myself lol
Iād probably have to choose a different slur as an example then since itās not nearly as recognizable as the n word. Tbh I feel like NGGR would be more recognized as a slur than āchinkā even with the abbreviation.
Duck I told you many posts back to drop it, please do. Iām just quoting this bit to say the earlier point was that you saw it as impossible to misunderstand that NGGR was an abbreviated N-word, but to many of us it was not. As I said before, itās only because itās coupled with āMcStainā (an obvious troll/rude type of phrase) that my mind would realise NGGR might stand for something rude. My natural reaction is itās a clan name. Thatās simply how it is for us, even if itās surprising to you because your brain jumps to the racist slur. Letās not continue talking it out for another 20 posts.
The KD Take ā The N-word is an incredibly charged word in the USA, but not elsewhere.ā wasnāt on my 2023 bingo card tbh.
Sarcasm aside: thatās an incredible weird take that is very dangerous and I want to explain. In Germany we have the Documenta. One of the worlds most famous art exhibitions. Documenta - Wikipedia
In their Defense the hosts claimed that they have a different perspective on antisemitism and that they didnāt found the pieces of art to be problematic. This was a point that was vastly criticized around the world because antisemitism/racism/etc. suddenly become a local phenomenon. It looks like itās not okay because itās a western perspective on things when in reality it has nothing to do with perspective. To discriminate people, to claim that people are worth less or more because of the color of their skin, their beliefs, their sex or gender and so on is always wrong. No matter where you are. And if people somehow missed the āracism is not okayā memo, itās fine to let them find out the hard way.
The fact that the word / acronym could be seen to be a racist word is enough for it to be acted upon and the player should be educated and warned by the devs. Thereās nothing more to it than that imo.
