Thalazaar 💖 (Poll and Discussion)

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i won this, you could abselutly have won that if you played it smart,

But yes it is beside the point. They do need a nerf immidietly or we are about to see this thing take over UC which would kinda funny but also terrible

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Nope, even that situation was unwinnable. It was a stall situation. I was stuck in a loop of multiplying Tenebrises and trying to bring Alyce so I could take two of them at a time but I couldn’t have done that consistently without having to kill one of the Thalazaars… and then it would always multiply.

Then there’s the fact that your Alyce is awakened, mine isn’t. And you had Carmillette there too to eat up Thalazaar’s AoE’s. Two completely different situations.

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I wouldent really say that, your tenebrises would do the exact same thing my carmilliette did keep the AOE in check and pick of one of them every now and then in if the alyce was in danger weather or not they’d multiply because of it

It’s mostly just a stall battle and gets tedious, but it’s whatever, at the end of the day I do agree with your sentiment of it being a ridicules buff

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Carmillette has camouflage. Tenebrises lose stealth if they’re hit. Enough said.

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We will cap it’s revival up to 3 times, and make its death immunity conditional.

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Do the same with astra

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Here is a decent idea, only the main monster will have death immunity to surely activate the revenge unless used a void.

Make same for astra

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So only up to 15 times you have to kill it?

And that’s assuming there’s nothing like Nephthys, Auro, etc. that can revive it

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I dont think he means that, i think the cap would be 3 times like astra

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1 splits into 2

2 splits into 4

4 splits into 8

That makes 14 copies it splits into, and if we add on the main body that’s +1 which makes it 15

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i dont think he meant two spilts otherwise whats the point, better not change anything, i believe it would be something like astra

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15 awake that will only occupy 1 box :exploding_head:, I think a new PVP list should be added → “prohibited monsters” and include all these follies in it

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I doubt they are going to change the split mechanic, it’s a twin headed hydra afterall, the splits make sense for the monster, just changing into astra but for charge would just be wierd and not fit the monster at all

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A mythic slime tank …lmfaoooo

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They already said they do it only because the AI struggles with it, so that is the point: AI, not the players.

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they can just update their ai instead of doing this, if they dont tune it down a bit its ridiculous

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Yes. You’re a math guy, so you know the chance of landing 8 copies at the end is low (5.46%). The chance of failing on the first death isn’t super low either.

The death immunity we’re considering only activates if Thalazaar is the only Aquatic type you control. If there’s a copy or Astrajlyth on the field, it won’t have death immunity.

Our goal is to make this monster intimidating enough that players feel it’s risky and hesitate to kill it. 66% chance is the same as Auto Protect. You bypass Auto Protect, you bypass Thalazaar.

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VKC I do love u, but I feel like I are going in a wrong direction, take it from a guy who loves the game and as been loving ur work since the start just consider it for future stuff

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If it still follows the pattern of “one live, two lives, three lives”, I think it is still an infinite cycle. I hope you can either change it to a single resurrection，Like that ghostly ground fox

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Then consider making Thalazaar immune to revival skills such as Aurodragon’s and Nepthys’s passives! 66% on his passive is more than enough.