PvP Nerf Poll Preparations

Heart burst
Double blood
Charm
4th one huh. Idk sorry

What do you think about flocco

But that player has to play against another player . So his front line matters too . Since there are 2 participants in every game , i think statistics are kinda accurate .

OP!?

Please no it’s enough annoying already
Agreed with everything else

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I will be creating six polls for nerfs and buffs. The polls will ask what the top three options are, which ones you are opposed to, and which ones you would implement if you were a game developer for neo. Is this a good format? I’m not sure if I should separate the nerf and buff polls into two different threads.

I’m OK with this monster being like it is, it require careful setup and it’s overall an OK mythic, not every mythic needs to be outstanding.

??? Now raw feels a lot more balanced, overwatch could get a tu reduction in general and stealth also to 50tu, I’m not sure about this suggestion though

It is actually a pretty powerful monster! The combos with inspire make him viable in second form and awakened fits perfectly in throw teams, one of the best friends of na’turgoul.

This move is already very powerful, the best examples are tygoron and focal force, reducing its tu would make it insane.

I don’t know where this suggestion came from but I don’t know why it’s necessary at all. It’s a move with basically no condition (can usually target the thing you want to kill) and does one-shot damage. 160TU sounds ideal for that kind of thing.

I was the one who originally suggested it. However, I don’t think it’s necessary if double poison eater gets lower TU. I think it’s better to have 160TU with no recoil than 130TU with the massive recoil.

Personally I’d alter this to include increasing the attack stats of the weak throw monsters. It’s literally just those few who deal low damage, not throw itself being weak. I.e. “Throw - increase damage / increase attack stats of the weak throw monsters”

I think you should specify here it’s “Stealth + sneak attack” and as the text maybe say “lower TU or give some other kind of advantage”

I think a better way of saying this is “Give non-damage moves with RAW restriction a lowered TU, e.g. RAW overwatch 50TU”. The point is that it’s a restriction so should lower TU like the other restrictions but it doesn’t have to be by as much as before.

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Kuromasa seems pretty good to me, I’ve seen people run him with Inspire and it works.

Lucifelle is good too, just not broken. The only buff she needs is for chrono hate not to be this oppressive.

Yeah I agree. Kuromasa, Lucifelle and Persephia are all kind of fine. They’re not the strongest mythics but they’re not like Rodeknight, who should definitely be looked at again by the Devs.

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What I think it should be is one thread, closed so people can’t comment (easier to see the polls). Create however many polls you need to include all the options (there’s a limit at 15 or something). Each poll you can select any number of options.

Order them as:

  1. Nerf options
  2. Buff options
  3. (Vote against) Nerf options
  4. (Vote against) Buff options

The “vote against” polls have all the same options as the polls above them. In the first post you ask everyone to participate in all the polls, selecting everything they feel is important.

If you limit the number of options people select I don’t think it’s a fair test. It will only show what are the most requested things… which should be clear enough anyway if people have unlimited votes.

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@NMEduck I see you’ve made it already! You’ve written “top 3 options” but allowed us to select any number. I agree with us voting for as many as we want but it’s confusing saying to select 3

I just made the edits. It lets me change them in the first five minutes.

Yeah I see, well done for doing it in time. I see you removed the polls for “what would you do if you were a Dev”. I don’t know what responses those would get haha

Why novadrake should get second wind back if his moveset was 60tu instead? If it was 70tu then it could be an option if feels overall too weak but that option in the pool don’t seem correct to me.

I was thinking it would make people less biased but it probably wasn’t necessary to include it.

A 60tu moveset makes it a lot easier to deal with novadrake so second wind can help with its survivability. A 50tu moveset with From the Brink is still much stronger than 60tu w/ second wind.

Not sure about this, but let’s see what people thinks about it

I think the general consensus on all 50 TU sweepers was a TU increase to 70 not to just 60 and no one agreed on giving nova 2nd Wing Back i think those are very diffrent proposition and should be separated…

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People were talking about both options, but in hindsight, I probably should’ve added another option. It’s too late to change it now, and it looks like there are a few options that are a lot more popular. If the devs listen to the other options then perhaps we could take a look at a more severe solution for 50tu movesets.

Yeah it was a tough call. With some of the topics there were two or three different suggestions and it’s hard to know what to write in the poll. For the 50TU moves increasing I took it as basically “increase the TU from 50 to something higher”.

@NMEduck Would you like me to add a post below the poll clarifying anything like this?