Poison Everywhere, Marks Everywhere, and... LEMON. Three big plagues of Neo Monsters pvp.

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Neo Monsters should be a strategy based game but nowadays this rarely happen, you see over and over same stuff back and front.
Is getting really annoying to face those so often.

Solutions for poison:

Nerf Freezcobra speed: Right now his speed overcome the meta allowing to perform poison gas along with Polarboss at a crazy speed rate, and yet his Detox Strike is very very powerful.

Give toxic entrance a time restriction: Very powerful passive with the present meta, no need to be available from start of the battle.

Solutions for Mark:

Detonate Mark not to bypass shields and HG: this can reduce hugely the problem allowing people to protect themselves in the meantime

Purify Marks:

This is an obvious solution already proposed.

Lemon’s solutions:

First of all NERF 2nd form: is just super crazy to face it even in second form at 11 cost.

Moveset:

Solo SLEEP
Dreamhunt
Fairy’s Kiss
Assisted Bolt(All)

Passives

Unamovible
Double Sleep Entry (150 sec restriction)

Awoken form:

Slayerbane All
Double Dreamhunt
Solo potent Sleep
Fairy’s Kiss

SS: Fairy’s Hymn

Unamovible
Double Sleep Entrance (150 sec)

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I don’t know about high rank pvp but the balance in lower ranks especially till hero rank less than 100 is pretty good and engaging .
I definitely understand your plobrem as it really becomes frustrating after facing same team again and again

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Based and detoxpilled

This sounds reasonable, just make it work like Morphean Bomb

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I can’t wait for this to happen . Cynthia needs to be toned down before they release more mark monsters .

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Nerf Toxic Entrance but Freezecobra is fine.

No same person would ever rely on just Poison Gas to charge Polaboss as a fl combo.

Also Goch shouldn’t have Defang, nerf him too.

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I almost agreed until the last line. Leave my :black_flag:󠁧󠁢󠁡󠁏󠁳󠁿 :dragon: alone :sweat_smile:

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It’s surprising to see a post with so many issues, but there’s actually a link between what you say.

Lemon - Sleeps All
Poison - Poisons all
Mark - Trigger. Kills all enemies marked

This is why they don’t take much thought to play (except poison). My suggestions:

Lemon: should be a chance sleep. Maybe not for the allied monsters because they’re likely to be sleep immune anyway, but I’m not sure. Nerf second form.

Poison entrance - At least 100 TU restriction from the start of battle.

Mark - Trigger should be an active skill not an entrance passive. Cynthia is not the issue, it’s the SE. If we see more mark monsters (which on the whole I welcome) it will only get worse.

While I’m at it, TU increase for Orca. If Ahuizard needed it then this guy certainly does.

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You did good at specifying “sane” because I was going to bring up Gentle

@LemonSqueezy I replied to your message by accident whoops

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Both quickdraw on cynthia and padri’s 50 TU increase to 70 TU.

Can we also talk about instant moves? There should be no instant moves at all. At lowest, they should be 30- TU.

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Roaring entrance with a double hitting move? Totally makes sense…

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There will definitely be another poll if toxic entrance is restricted to 100tu from start and that is glacioron and @DevilsMisfortune will surely be there to support the nerf

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Instant Moves are a necessary evil to counter Roaring Entrance.

I think Glaciaron will fall out of the spotlight the moment poison front lines stop being a thing. We have bigger problems unfortunately.

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You do know zib fl’s fuel him

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Doesn’t Zib’s revenge only give him a turn 25% of the time?

Regardless even if Zib still had his old revenge I doubt it would be enough to justify the inclusion unless you’re running stealth or Link Water, neither of which is all that hot at the moment.

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Do you mean 25% of the matches played or about it’s passive?
Still it only works when there’s targets just like things like draco scarl etc.Cant argue with what you said

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He meant single ston, so 1/4 chance to hit glaci

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for me polaboss is the big problem more then cobra ,some times detox strike can’t one shot monster with high Hp like Arboribratus.

agree

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I will agree if she have OOO entrance (400sec restriction)
and remove Double dreamhunt → Dreamhunt
solo sleep is big nerf for her I will agree if she have normal sleep instead

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What’s your idea for Goch?

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I believe he was being sarcastic since we all are targeting poison recently