On the list of nonsense movesets instant toxic killer followed by raw bloodfury with a monster with stun converter is up there. But got to say instant true hit into raw killer nonsense or bloodcrave is there as well. Might as well run them both in FL so you get the maximum kills before the opponent can do a thing. Instant moves are very unnecessary sometimes.
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Someone doing this could still roll for orca right now, idk how this makes someone biased 
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I like orca , it’s pretty cool . On the other hand , awakened cynthia is next level !
U guys should be happy they gave a s+ monster as a legendary instead as a mythic . Power creep is increasing , perhaps we must adapt to it .
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He is not rolling for him. What’s your point?
So he prefers to whine about it, while we have older monsters which are stronger right now.
Not sure what you meant, but does it really matter if you can’t deny my arguments?
The argument is complaing about a monster you don’t own, while most likely owning a stronger monster is just absurd. It’s just sad.
There are quite alot more problematic monsters around.
Meh keep toxic killer
Remove Chrono killer I’m fine with the rest 
A more powerful monster, excluding the best awakened mythics, just doesn’t exist. That’s the problem.
Suikenshi is vastly considered one of the best mythics (probably 3rd in the game after Bastia and Lemon). Orca is faster, harder to kill because of Camoflage, has lower TU on his moves, has a better Slayerbane, has more useful killer moves, and has that nonsense that is Instant True Hit; Suikenshi costs 2 less (for whatever reason), has Focus on his better blood move (although he can’t use it with water monsters), higher stats, and can be used with protectors (which because of Orca aren’t viable in front line anyway).
That’s the best sweeper in the game, and a top tier mythic, being arguably worse than Orca.
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A paper sweeper will never be more problematic than the real deals like deathgazer, dusi, etc.
Orca literally pushes every protector, every monster with a poison/give turn skill and every Stun Counter/Converter out of any front line in meta unless they come with a way to deal with a +9 Orca. And there aren’t many.
They’re not even close.
what you on about? Spectrefox is a freaking SE.
But it’s not viable. You can’t run a monster that would otherwise turn into complete deadweight just in the hope to find that single monster/strategy it counters.
The more I think about it, the more amazed that I get. No other monster received this much complaints in such a short amount of time, not even the most infamous monsters such as Angel, Scorp, Dusi and Floccula. I want to say that the devs didn’t test this monster before releasing it, but I know that’s a lie. They knew that thousands of players will be rolling for this monster, hence why they made it as powerful as it is. We can expect something just as powerful on Christmas, perhaps even stronger.
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I second this so much
Instant moves are also ways to pick a kill off HG, so that can lead to very annoying stuff, and I don’t even run Poison.
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Name three of them and explain why they are more problematic
Why not a more interesting solution…
Change the passives to:
- Predator entrance (enters the battlefield with camouflage and stun immunity)
- Blood price
Change the TU of bloodcrave to 50.
This way it makes it much weaker in the front line as well as even easier to kill off with attacks. Bloodcrave does huge recoil to itself and probably only get used once or twice (the recoil will happen before blood price).
P.S. I’m still of the opinion to give it more time and see. It was clearly designed to slot into this meta well and with time may not appear to be broken, just very strong (which is totally fine).
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As long as the RAW skills still get that 70tu treatment, I think that’s a good solution.
Nah, blood price justifies the low TU. That’s what made me think of blood price in the first place
I tried to run it doesn’t help much
I heard rumors that he doesn’t survive more than 3 Bloodcrave? Is that true 
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