I genuinely forgot about that move when replying before, lol. Still though, in the context of PvE antidote doesnât do enough damage. Itâs weak even for PvP.
I think Lilithia is brilliant for PvP, itâs a monster in A tier that has the same problem as others⊠only so many monsters can be in S- tier or above.
In PvE the things she offers just donât matter as much. For example, pulling back a stunned teammate doesnât really come up in PvE.
Yeah poison was completely unrestricted in the latest restriction list and design has been pushing sleep a bit more lately so they are more popular in the meta than in the past. However, the tier lists are intended as general overviews rather than shifting with the current meta.
Sakuralisk is way stronger for controlling the battlefield. Itâs a monster that allows you to take control then press the advantage. Lilithia is just a value engine that counters sleep and poison and makes your team more defensive. The problem is that she can be very passive when she doesnât meet storm/poison/sleep.
Perhaps itâs just the teams Iâve met when I faced Lilithia, but in multiple cases Iâve been able to leave Lilithia with another support/passive teammate and then take control of the battle. The shield+stealth is annoying but not impossible to deal with if youâre in a good position. Whatâs your experience facing her been like?
It was tempting to put Luna that low haha but I think her baseline is actually pretty reasonable and the immunities do matter. Basically sheâs a fine monster but not one you want to use in the most competitive teams.
How much damage does it do? Maybe they buffed it since release. The number I noted down was 4500 damage (±10%). So it kills legendaries and unreliably kills low HP mythics. Pretty much anything with HP boost it wonât kill and in PvE it wonât one-shot much at all.
Slimetank works amazingly well with Persephia. Persephiaâs rockoid summons usually spaces out your own stun protection way too much. But slime keeps it in play and offers amazing support. As throw next fodder or simply by staying in the game. As an absorber, purifier and protector (emoji because itâs 20% protect) it offers a lot.
Today I grinded a win by killing a full health Sturg Moth and Unicera just with slime and shiny fox using AOEs and stun killer lol.
I think a FL or mid game Slimetank is too risky, but endgame if youâre running lots of stun prone monsters back to back Or have monsters like Persephia that can space your own monsters out more, itâs very useful.
@Chief_Grey I meet Coltraz in PvP regularly enough (twice a month?) and Squinty has always used Lilithia recently I think. I didnât base my recent assessment on those matches, but I do remember in one of them I did exactly what I said above where I left them with Lilithia + passive monster and then killed my way through their whole team because I basically always had enough attacks to remove the shield first before killing. What Iâve heard from multiple Lilithia owners is sheâs very good but not incredible. Do share your own experience with her though, Iâm interested.
Very interesting idea! Is the protect chance not too low that they target and kill the Persephia or simply never cause it to start duplicating in the first place? I wonder if what you need is an Arachnadiva too.
I think of you every time I consider moving it and it pains me to do it. You make me feel like Iâm killing a little bit of the Welsh spirit. We need a 2023 Welsh mythic like a powerful sheep or something to do with rugby.
In combination with the rockoids, no. Persy is usually safe. Itâs biggest threat is being stunned, but then Slimetank makes it almost impossible to do that and you can cycle through slime and rocks with Persephia to suit the situation, ready for the big AoE.
Sheep would definitely be racist
Poison is still as prevalent as ever in the endgame and Goch either comes in and bags 2 kills and then a payback or 6 with the defang and tyrannical. Genuinely think it deserves to be higher. Even with no poison it usually gets one or two kills and then a payback.
Haha I genuinely looked up âWhat is Wales known forâ before writing that. Sheep was high on the list due to a very high percentage of farming being sheep farming in some period. Another was âleeksâ, but I donât know how they could turn that into a monster without it seeming ridiculous.
Great insight on Persephia + Slimetank, sounds very cool
The dragon is literally there on the flag. Why not make a cool â â â noodle dragon but reference enough welsh into it so it doesnât look like an eastern dragon.
nvm I looked closer it doesnât look like an eastern dragon so I guess a western style dragon with a cool design would be better than a sheep imo
I want a thlug mother, an egyptian pyramid (for the pyramid SEs), and a gummydragon waifu (I prefer sexualised husbando, would like to see what they can do but the devs are too weak to do it)
@Killerdog I think itâs worth keeping an eye on Angelion in S+ tier for PvP. I think itâs far too easy to kill these days and itâs lack of survivability makes me wonder if it should probably come down a tier.
(emoji because itâs 20% protect) it offers a lot.
