Angelion Atrahasis (2 in 180 TU) Zib Auro Husky and Angel can only get rid of 1 out of the 5 Bronceshells motor summons
Dusy geo and Crim are the real counters and out of them i donāt even consider Crim as a viable one because wasting the 3 Toxic GT getting rid of shells itās quite a lost
Which leaves us with Dusy and Geo (well known ones) and i will add Sacrumega (a bad monster for top PvP imo) and Jocodragon (High speed KBN and Sendback Next to send to the end of the team some shells) but not as effective.
Dusy itās not as good in this job as before because it can be stunned out of the game so it canāt get rid of the shells so imo the best and probably only really viable counter out there itās Geo
So i think weāre facing a big unbalance created after Dusyās rework (although necessary) and it could be fixed by adding Token Devour to more Monsters already existing and yet to come
When we say a monster with purify counters sleep that doesnāt mean it has sleep immunity, purify and a passive that prevents your monsters from being put to sleep for 200s after it dies. When a monster is good for removing stun protection that doesnāt mean it has chrono killer, stun pulse, timecrush and repulse.
Removing a single Bronzeshell is all you need on the battlefield at any given point.
Not that I want to participate in this argument, but I kinda feel the need to clarify what @MementoMori said. @Killerdog youāre right on what you posted but you are missing the point a little bit:
. How many monsters are with purify (for instance) and how many are with token devourer? (In here you can argue that there are more purifiers because there are more sleep monsters, but the number of monsters that put bronceshells and the quality of them has increased lately)
. How many times monsters with purify can do the skill and how many times tonken devourerās(or the ones that sacrifice monsters) can?
I agree with Memento when he said that geomagnus is the only viable counter to bronceshell spam (imo dusi with that stun absorber passive can not even be considered a counter) and that we need more monsters with token devourer.
I agree. Motor is immense. Itās what made Josu so strong imo, in addition to other strats he used. Excellent monster. When it summoned back to back bronzeshells it was hell
Lol sure tell that to any player Bronceshell lockedā¦
Funny thing is that GF Sunflower itās S tier and Motor Aā¦ When you said upon itās release that you didnāt see any reason for GF to be used over Motor looooooooooooooool
Tbh it was his Suikenshi + Jaguardian that was placed behind a Sanctistag. That was really hard to come out ahead of unless you directly countered it and after that he had Angelion and Sakuralisk, so he was practically impossible to stun, as well as the likes of Focalforce and Y Ddraig Goch. Motor did a lot to help him maintain control and if he got to soul exchange to get it a second time that was horrible but in general his team was mythics that overpowered his opponent + control from Motor and Voidress to tie it all together (ritualling when necessary). He could have easily used other means of control for a similar effect, not just Motor.
Pretty sure I didnāt. Find the post for me please. Iām a big fan of anything with hardened carapace. Only thing I was unsure about with garden fairy sunflower when I first made posts was how well the vigor moves would work, which turns out even better than I hoped
I think there was a discussion about whether Motor or Sunflower was better for shells and many said Motor was better for the job. I donāt think I was involved in it
EDIT: I found it!
So literally my first post on it, responding to someone calling it broken. I said I thought people are still more likely to use Motor and how the passive is basically harder to get lots of Bronzeshells than Motor. My phrasing looks like I think itāll only be viable with other Garden Fairies but that wasnāt my actual opinion, it was mainly because I was responding to a comment about it being ābrokenā so I was contradicting the extreme statement. Also, I wasnāt 100% sure what to make of the vigor moves yet. I saw the monster only 50 minutes earlier.
Either way, I didnāt say something like āI donāt see any reason for GF to be used over Motorā @MementoMori
I donāt own Geocosma but I feel like he belongs in S-
Razorstorm seems perfect in A but I was thinking if you could move him to S-
That Entrance is amazing when u build around specially with that secret skill on top of that storm offers a lot of mecha mons to work with him
Thatās true, but Iāve always found the community over exaggerate the danger of bringing in multiple monsters. If youāre set up with stun protection such as Leo and itās early game, itās usually fine. Do a cheeky skip so they skip back and your monsters will get a turn first anyway.
If youāre still worried, you can always hit a Camo, stealth or HG mon with the fast strike so you only kill one
