šŸ† Neo Monsters tier list (see first post) šŸ†

ig regalion deserves s tier…2 power passives ,which are required in current meta…it stops inspire,give turn and retreat and moreover it can seal away a mons for 300 sec

I’d put Regalion a bit down the list because he shuts down strategies on your team too, therefore it’s probably a monster that requires a larger collection to really be effective.
It’s not a monster for everyone essentially, I’d put it in S- because he’s powerful nevertheless.

A monster I think doesn’t deserve its place is Valzareign. S- is very generous for him, especially considering Infernicorn is one tier above it. I’d put it in A.

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I think Tortogeist and Magatsuoh is S+ tier.U can use them in any Pve event except dungeon.
Stratrustrike must lower then them I think S- tier.
and all death revenge cloner monster must have same tier like hanzofox in general maybe at tier B or A.

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Maggatsuoh is a crazy strong sweeper but what holds it back is the fact it’s squishy. S tier for sure though, one of the very few PvE viable Poison monsters.

But I have a fact,my brother can’t reach lvl 600 (UC) with only auro and cosmo,but since he got magatsuoh he reach level 1600 (UC).not only that magat is superior monster in time attack. and super tough in showdown tower.and try to compare with stratrustike he is not worth in UC ,hell mode and time attack but he is still S+ in general

Yes I agree, he’s absolutely superior to Stratustrike, at least a tier above. But Stratustrike has what Maggatsuoh hasn’t, which is durability.

It the dmg is rng
3.8k-4.6k
And I always had bad luck with it :sweat_smile:
So I don’t really think he should be S tier for PvP

It’s a bit less, 3700-4400. I think the range you mentioned is Gyomurai’s

But I think saw Bundam dealing 4600 dmg on Angelion

Hmmmm, the most damage I’ve ever seen it deal was 4417. I remember it, because it OHKOed a full HP Aurodragon in PvP.

As Interference said, the damage is not quite reliable enough for killing any legendaries that aren’t high speed (i.e. low HP). I can’t remember the exact numbers but I’m pretty sure it’s weaker than overconfident strike from Gyomurai which is 3900-4750 (reliably killing most legendaries).

Torto and Magga are already both in S tier. Tortogeist is nice value but nothing too crazy, except when it comes to super buffed battles where it’s clearly one of the best. I think S tier gets the balance of those. Magga needs to be built around to really perform well and isn’t super reliable so I don’t think it’s S+ tier worthy. I agree it’s great for some specific events where other things don’t do well.

Stratustrike is still an exceptionally strong tool that enables many other monsters to get their survivor/novablast charged while also being a very relevant sweeper even against buffed enemies. There are more counters to sleep these days so it won’t win every battle for you but it’s pretty universally good.

I have Nebel and Cosmo in C tier for PvE because honestly they are nothing too special. 1-for-1 trades are not what you want to be doing in most PvE events and they’re slow to clone + protect so in the back of your team they will just get killed off and not win you the battle. Also consider how DR kills a random enemy so any kind of control you’re trying to do (leaving certain enemies alive - very common to do in PvE) may be messed up. I much prefer Cryo/Sancta for PvE because they clone next and they give you some control over the battle with the stun. Nebel and Cosmo are great performers in UC or when used with Auro because that’s when you get extra value out of them, 1-for-1 trades are better and the enemy teams tend to attack infrequently which makes the slow cloning easier to pull off. I’ve got Hanzo up in S- tier because the rocks it creates slow the enemy team down so it very quickly gets you in a controlling position plus it has stealthy entrance which does a lot to help it clone again.

A fair point about larger collection but that’s exactly what the PvP tier list is taking into account… people having a good collection. Regalion shouldn’t be backfiring at all and its controlling nature is exceptional since the change to seal. Regalion does so much for teams and fits perfectly with what a lot of mythic teams are trying to do… control the battlefield with powerful effects and have very few killer weaknesses.

This is a monster I’ve wanted to push lower but it just gets the job done so well a lot of the time. I think you’re right that it should be lower by a tier now. The healing move being nerfed has hurt it a bit and we’ve also got a bunch of great monsters in A tier which it is similar power level to.

I know those powerful passives are great BUT after using Seal it becomes an almost complete dead weight so you most have something to remove it and that’s not how a S tier works… It’s Damage output it’s awful so there is no much point in focusing on charging DDS.

u can play around seal. Regal is all about disrupting the team fl and u can play around data to disrupt better. Also him being a dead weight is not possible. he exists to exist. His damage output sucks, that’s true.
Also u can go stun pulse with seal. stun a stun absorber with seal an enemy. making it 2 vs 3.

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You might be right maybe i don’t find it that powerful because i don’t use disruption in my teams nor retreats/step back nor GT spam but i have the belief that as long as an SE (my boy Joco) it’s better than him doing was it does (disrupting the enemy strategy) it’s not S Tier material

Joco and Regal does are not similiar to begin with to judge them
joco protects u from entrance and help with betray
Regal Helps against Chrono moves like leo inspire combos and is able to seal any monster.
I used both and I know for fact that both of them does their FIELD of job perfectly.
Also i am with you on the fact that regal is not s tier. he should be atmost S- tier. that dude is slow on doing the seal move. only fl material/ and his best merit is to exist in the field.

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@MementoMori I’ve gone back and forth on Regalion but tbh I think it’s always been underrated and since the change to seal it’s extremely powerful. It adds so much control to a team and fits very well with what the meta will look like going forward I believe. 58% speed is pretty insane for pushing any enemy so far out of play. Regalion isn’t for every team but where it fits it does a lot of work.

Meanwhile, the meta still plays Motordragon everywhere and believes it to be the greatest despite there being a million ways to remove Bronzeshells from your team. Someday the meta will counteract Motor properly and people will wonder what all the fuss was about.

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Name 5 viable ones in top PvP teams :eyes:

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Dusicyon, that blue thing with gift exchange and what else. ?

Geo, sacrumega, x wings, Sivanna

Well the point was the meta doesn’t have enough ways of dealing with it. Once stun protection becomes less reliant on running stun immunes then there will be more slots free for any of the things that kill or remove teammates. There’s a lot of them now, especially more recent monsters like a lot of the mythics.

Even so:
Angelion
Dusicyon
Huskegon (2nd or 3rd form)
Geomagnus
Aurodragon
Also (more niche use) Ziberius, Crimseias, Atrahasis, Deathgazer

There are plenty of other viable monsters which just aren’t popular. I think these are the top current ones. I looked through my own collection to find them so might be one or two that would fit the list better

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