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I would say Haneri is very good in PvP everyone mostly runs stun immunity spam so the chance of backfiring stun isn’t much and it can find a lot of targets and it has a blood move to sweep after that.
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Stun immune spam may be coming to an end in the next few months. Also, how does it compare to Huskegon in your mind (the only other shocking entrance mythic)?
Huskegon is a lot better in stun and raw teams
He can not only set up himself but also remove a dead weight
Compared to him she’s pretty bad 
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I agree with your assessment of Rodeknight. I’m glad it’s not a waifu design but that’s pretty much the only good thing about it. Honestly it’s a terrible monster, the second form doesn’t even have attack boost to help the damage.
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16 posts were merged into an existing topic: Tier list change log
I’m currently in the process of shifting legendaries down in the “General” tier list. You will see some things a bit out of shape until I’m done with it. I’ll make a post explaining the changes when I’ve finished.
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this is great update
In onder to stun huskeon is a lot better, but if you’re thinking on killing, Hanery is the best choice. Double time attack with piercing (kills one more than Huskeon and faster) + a fast blood move. Also I most say she is pretty tanky, she can hold an infernicorn’s double piercing damage.
Edit: I can’t remember now if huskeons TA is double or not, but even if so, I’d still like her a little bit more (thinking on killing). Her rocks provide a pretty good protection while she keeps attacking
Husskeogon has timecrush double … awakened i mean… but his best part is to come and use instant show of might to get more stun and pick a kill for himself
But comparing sec form…i think huskie has a bit of advantage in the part of stunning
I’d say husking is a lot better since you can charge raw bloodcrave on the first turn while getting rid of dead weight. The awakened forms are a bit different where huskegon is easily the best monster for stun locks because of show of might.
Show of might’s sleep target is broken!? Lol
For general I think moku should go up to S+ tier. It usually can be played just like in pvp, but the ai is really dumb so mojimojiha z is almost guaranteed to go off. You also can use gain one, lose one, and give one to line up a regular mojimojiha quite easily against the ai.
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Huskegon can stun again with show of might as well as using ally substitute lvl 4 to save a disabled ally or get a second shocking entrance. In total it can do 120+120+80 (320s) of stun itself plus a sleep on an enemy and has a 100TU raw blood move or piercing double target move. The flexibility it has far outclasses Haneri in my mind.
However, it’s true that Haneri works better as a general sweeper and is tankier. She’s also got sleep immunity which is generally nice and allows you to combine her with OoO if you want. Her stun immune punisher is an upgraded chrono killer that has higher TU (70->100). What you can do is use her in OoO then very reliably open the enemy team up to stun before you have a mad amount of stun later in your team. That’s where she can outperform Huskegon I think but in all other cases I’d rather have a Huskegon.
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I feel like S tier is already high enough to respect all that. I mean compare it to the 400s novablast monsters which in PvE can be set up relatively easily and they have a fair bit more than Moku… they’re all lower in the tier list. Bundam is S tier as well, the monster with 300s novablast and a 100TU double drain survivor that easily one-shots buffed enemies (at the cost of taking huge damage in return).
S+ in the general tier list is more for monsters that almost single-handedly win games when built around, allow incredibly powerful combos or an extreme amount of support. Moku is more like a very effective, efficient way of killing a few monsters with the potential for killing a few more if things line up.
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taking high damage in return?double drain survivor?
Terminator mode = minimum defence. It doesn’t have to use it but without that the double drain survivor is fairly weak against buffed enemies.
oh but isnt it better to just stay def or normal mode before blast because drain survivor is 320 sec(i think)
I was specifically referring to the time when double drain survivor is charged and you switch to terminator mode to do good damage with it. Before that point yes you either want normal mode or guardian mode.
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I’ve clutched multiple hell mode chapter 6 and 7 battles with moku by killing the last 4-7 monsters. Mojimojiha z is many times more reliable than 300sec novablast and you can often spam mojimojiha by frequently lining up your reinforcements. This is when monsters have 20k hp although I haven’t tested it much when the buffs are a lot smaller.