It’s more that I think Lemon should go up and Sakura down on their own merit as opposed to a comparison. Just made sense to suggest something goes up if you ask for something to come down or vice versa .
@Cesar A pose??
@LemonSqueezy Makes absolute sense. Thanks for the input. I wish I’d seen how people are running Lemon these days. I’ve met her in maybe one PvP battle in the last year. It’s kind of wild how much some of the stronger mythics see so little play even though it’s clear from the moveset that it should have a place in the meta. I blame @NMEduck for championing Asmodia so much 
I think he means “a pause”
Lemon slaps especially if you awaken a bunch of sleep immune - Selene just made the whole Lemon EG even stronger.
I haven’t got back to my old Kunomi Harle shell manip EG after I got Lemon because it is that good to seal the deal on close matches.
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This is a fun team so it’s not super competitive, but I got Lemon from the most recent egg so im running her with Persey and Nyx to try a different way to play Nyx. Persey because it will get changed to insomnia next season. 2 rebirths on a Lemon is really strong. Y Ddraig Goch for obvious reasons 
but also because it has more value behind a Lemon.
just use Romanoid
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Yes Killerdog. Each update must come with a move/ pose.
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@Killerdog pick one
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Cheers
Lol, sounds brutal.
Yeah the abundance of sleep immune mythics has probably improved Lemon setups a lot. Maybe you can help make it meta 
Won’t be meta if every other team is Asmodia Poison. But there are ways to deal with that too.
I think it’s wild that Candy isn’t in F tier. She’s severely limited to a full link team (literally no other element allowed so transient bash only) As a mythic, that is downright horrible. Her only saving grace is, that it does allow two link teams at once.
Deviladus 2nd form has bloodfury now, weird. I thought it was BT, but nope. Only one kill needed, needs some reviewing.
Selene low tu, ohko moves, 3 of which ignore hg. Tanky af and decent speed. That’s at least S. Her only healing move come around every 102 seconds. While it is full heal, she sometimes can’t get 3 kills in that time. At the very least, it’s a guaranteed 1 kill every 102 seconds. She also suffers from success, especially if forced to hit DR, her moves being low tu meaning more often than not, ap prevents her from completely wiping a team or triggering an undesirable revenge.
As for 2nd form, the tu is 60 seconds for whatever reason while Awakened is 40 if modified to +0 to test. Weird, but makes that 102 seconds for healing a staggering 180 Seconds, a literal lifetime in terms of neo.
Sivanna in C tier feels really weird, her revenge now being piercing and a def boost on top of that plus that she’s the og void queen with even more kill potential. She’s a menace.
As for ED when paired with Keiser
The SE threat level as per general odds of getting a kill(in order from most dangerous to least):
- Storm ED - enters at 15 tu with a guaranteed kill (yikes for opp)
- Earth ED - Enters at 41 tu, Tanky and only fails to kill tankiest of mons (manageable, but still high value)
- Holy ED - Enters at 33 tu, pair that with a hefty avg of 4.6k - 7.6k damage
- Dark ED - Enters at 39 tu, This lil sh!t will kill whatever it wants ONLY IF it has stealth, ap need not apply
- Fire ED - Enters at 29 tu, It’s generally a hit and miss. Dangerous if able, but most of the time, easy to deal with if you have purify.
- Water ED - Enters at 46 tu, sleep entrance is wonky and never really hits the opp, low value
As for Keiser himself: His moves are limited, only able to GT twice. However, it does need a tu cost for that move rather than a simple switch with tu, given the speeds at which the ED all enter.
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How is tardiecannon and rune dragon s-? I’m new and I have them so I wanna know how to use them better :3
you’re a very blessed soul to have runedragon at this age,i hope you’re having fun with him
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i am an expert at tardiness. some even call me a tard. c:
one thing i can share with you is the amazing pairing of Tardigrenade and Motordragon. tardi also has a quick piercing healing SS and is one of the best give turn type monsters. he cant be ignored thanks to his survival all move.
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Alright, I will unlock his ss :)) what about rune dragon?
survivor all is a very low damage move, im sure its not that viable of a move in high ranked pvp, most just use taunt, giveturn and its ss in a typical pvp
Rune is awesome
I want Rune 
Thanks, now that I have tardigrenade I want his thick skin to be very thick skin tanking 800 damage >:)