Who told you he plays with other monsters? The others are just to accompany the poison. Itâs like Charybdia which can be used with other poison monsters but she basically doesnât need them
Roseis isnât as good as chary lol, Iâm not saying that rose isnât good, just that it isnât good to the extent of being in s+
Well you are wrong lol
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Wrong in what? Roseis is as good as chary? Pls run stealth, sleep or shield lines with other s+ legendaries and roseis and tell me roseis doesnât require team considerations⌠youâre wrongđ
Itâs just a difference in opinion. I donât see rose grist in S+ tier when itâs not that fast, easy to kill, and doesnât have S tier quality sweeping moves. The focus passive and SS are great but thatâs all I see in it.
When it doesnât have any kills, you can only charge double bloodcrave if you get a kill with venom chrono killer or poison chomp. Those deal decent damage, but thatâs only when you arenât facing high defense mons unless thereâs some extra damage multiplier those moves get with rosegeist I wasnât aware of.
Mutual inversion is generally best used for entrance control. Itâs not particularly reliable when you want something that has a good impact on the mons currently on the field, which I feel is the main problem with rosegeist.
He canât be always right. And moreover S+ should be really powerful that can change the tide of match. Even with toxic killer it dies easily. I am not saying itâs trash but A tier would be best.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=-C_uD8pUDws&si=O2dGOFjaXicMZ2rjHe does it lol. There are other videos if you prefer
Lol that doesnât make sense. Orca can also easily despite these movements, Angelion dies easily etc. Their levels have nothing to do with their survival skills, but rather what they do. Furthermore, I have a big doubt about your ability to judge whether a monster is good or not given the dead weight that you often use in PvP 
This video simply token lock. Moreover it was prone to stun. This showcase about tokens lock not roseist. Like previously even wraithost used to sweep or it even have stun immunity but doesnât make him s+.
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Forget it if u donât want to admit. I will pass
Dead 
It is not because a monster has immunity and that at low seconds that it will be s+. Be consistent lol.
We literally spoke about this together. Poison chomp does 5k damage to a full defence monster so itâs only things with buffed defence or the tankiest mythics which are HP boosted who have a reasonable chance to not get one-shot.
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Sorry I wasnât around to answer, but basically auto-poison all is a pretty big upgrade over auto-poison because it effectively gives all incoming teammates sleep immunity as well as a few specific monsters gaining benefit from being poisoned (e.g. the most recent mythic Risu).
Put simply, Rosegeist should get very easy 130TU kills on every turn, killing whatever it likes and around protectors while also countering all HG/stealth/shields in the enemy team, setting up poison teammates and making your incoming teammates immune to sleep. Itâs also got reasonable speed, a decent SS for giving you some control and mutual inversion can deal with defence buffed enemies or some revenges (flip and let them die to poison). The only downsides of it are the first turn doesnât make a huge impact and itâs a bit squishy. However, compared to other sweepers (especially at legendary) it is much more effective, has more synergy and has more utility.
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I donât know if I want my Risu to come poisoned. On top of it, that would be even worse combo since her ss is very strong and is a sleep one.
Many players are reluctant to use Rosegeist in any setup. I maybe seen it once in high pvp tiers and that should tell you that it is nowhere to being an S+ legendary.
Swap its placement with Cyclophina and we are good.
If we compare Scorpio,gazer( poision theme mons) itâs nowhere near. Ig even Scorpio is not s+ anymore,so rose is nowhere close to s+. Even in early game it dies easily and for old players most of wonât use it. Itâs a mid tier mons. You guys are overrating!
Her SS is a one-time use sleep. Either have it turned off or use it on a poison immune / purify enemy.
Just because something is unpopular doesnât mean itâs not strong. You surely know that better than most! Poison has gone out of the meta for a long time besides end-games.
I can tell you havenât gone to read my earlier posts about Rosegeist vs Scorpiogeist. Itâs clearly way stronger except in the end-game.
Iâm speaking mostly for myself. I donât know many who have said anything positive about it lol. The two people I know have been very high on it are two people who own and use it. I think itâs currently the most underrated monster and people need to stop disregarding it, especially when they donât own it and havenât seen it.
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I have crushed rose many timesđ
I forgot lol
Ah no need to apologise, I know you got a job so itâs difficult to give time to this, I just thought though poison counters sleep, rose would be lower cause it doesnât allow you to play stealth, shield setups, removes hg from your team and makes confident attacks futile while other s+ monsters can do well without caring what your existing setup is.(So sheâs still good but maybe not s+ level).Regardless youâve more experience than me lol, so maybe Iâm just overrating shielding and stealth a bit.
Think about how much poison annoys the monsters you want to use, then imagine that for your opponent who has not prepared for their team to be poisoned. So many monsters require building around and it takes effort, but here itâs much less effort to pull off. Thereâs enough monsters that arenât affected poorly by poison, but enough that are so the poison on the enemy team will be powerful. I can understand your hesitation with auto-poison all, but I promise you itâs a stronger version of auto-poison.
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