Welp speaking from the pov of second form leira , I will have to agree it went down a tier after all those nerfs (especially the latest one which cancels out the roaring effect) but ig it’s fine as D tier in final still does a lot of thing , many combos are still there , 2x moogong and some support moves is great.
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You know what i Saw leira somehow similiar like Nightingale in PVP. They both should not really far in the tier.
I am also user, I mean like how can she get 2x euthanasia when the skill basically high tu, and u can’t give turn her . (Maybe pullback)?
For PvE I am believe she is in high tier. But for PVP . A tier its too high for her, If somehow suikenshi tier C PVP and leira tier E PVP.
Or maybe I just play her wrong, i hope someone give me tips run her properly . 
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i dunno factor in how her enterance overrides passive?
can immediately kill a threat couple of times and really bring 2 mons into the game🤔?
leira has maybe the enterance over her.
everything else can and will backfire(moongong’s sleep bomb)
not to mention summon nereida isn’t exactly a support skill…
overall I think nightingale might be S tier min for support mons. give turn, killing mons multiple times or even healing them are way too good moves. not to mention she actually has Ooo support move.
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I have 80+ match with her ,and never pull rescuing dual give turn. I am already try run slow monster + stun absorber and its still never pull rescuing dual give turn.
The only good way to combo her is with pullback/Ally sub. But after u use 2x euthanasia,she Will become semi deadweight. Unlike leira who can still combo with another entrance monster.
So In my conclusion , leira good since there is many good combo with her
For Nightingale its good If u have random slot in endgame/midgame and u don’t know what should to run in that place.
Personally I am more prefer run Gabriela. (Semi roaring + purify + low tu sec + gain comeback power via slayerbreak) .
And u know I am “lock” user , i am sure u understand why I overating leira.
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I use her endgame with harlking. She can kill that damn cat ( i hate that thing ). And harlking can send her back next in line
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Nightingale just has a better moveset than leira. Kill 2 monsters. Heal teammates. Gt. Purity and can do damage with strike. Leira only there for her passive and her two kills. Hell even second form nightingale is a lot better
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I know ,u Will run Ally sub/pullback with her. In my deck I am also run her with plume + soral.
Sometimes the problem is after I am use euthanasia and next line entrance, The match become 3 vs 4 since euthanasia have high sec. Unlike leira , the match still become 3 vs 3.
But well I think should run her with sir lancerat. Thx for sharing.
after leira kill once she just sit there lol. leira only decent if its awaken
she allows a second entrance, has vile rage which is useful in certain situations and can use piercing to remove any shields etc. the vile rage counters the moogong sleep bomb or sets up her own one.
Nereida is possibly the best summon monster after Aegisdragon. (not counting FDs or AS)
lol as soon as Sir Lancerat came out her banner followed and i went to 0 gems to try and get her as she was the only real counter i could think of to him. didn’t get one copy 
considering bitebiker now lol.
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Nightingale vs Leira is exactly the comparison I used when deciding their positions. Nightingale is way stronger!
Double nightmare strike is the really big buff Nightingale got, meaning it’s no longer dead weight and it has a second really good option for damage. Since it’s 50% to two enemies, it’s basically like a piercing kill every 130TU but cannot kill new monsters as they enter. I’d actually recommend using it instead of euthanasia because it’s 260TU to kill two things vs 220TU to kill one thing. Euthanasia should only be used if you need to kill a particular enemy right now or it has a nasty revenge.
@Yakuza The issue I have with putting Nightingale A tier in PvP is there are lots of good mythics competing for that kind of tier. C tier is still meant to be a very playable mythic but one that doesn’t stand out massively compared to the others. Gabrielle (S-) and Tyrfina (B) are two quite similar mythics which I think stand out more. Nightingale is a great tool for the late-game to recover but is a little too slow with what she does to be at the same level in my opinion. If dual rescuing give turn came up more then she would be higher, but as Archer said it almost never does so she’s basically instant purify then a slow/medium damage move.
If double nightmare strike turns out to play super well please let me know. I reckon that’s the part of her moveset that may carry her higher.
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It’s a reason the top pvp player use nightingale. She at least B if u not gone accept the A placement. She good
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If I had Nightingale awakened (planning to) I would use it instead of Gabrielle without thinking twice about it.
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Why?
Because of the guaranteed roaring entrance (not that easy to get that now with many auto pushback mechanics) and a guaranteed void kill on anything that might be problematic. We just got a very nasty passive on Isoldelle (Shi Na as well) so now skills with void sweeping are quite valuable.
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Nightingale is better than you think. She a roaring monster that can stop sleep/posion. Guarantee two kills and as u said never dead weight due to her strike attack.
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Btw I’ve just made a few more adjustments, which I’ve added to the previous post but I’ll write here…
Jaguardian S → S- in PvP
Gryphking S- → S in PvP
Novemdomina & Prismegasus B → C in PvP
Nightingale & Uraniumedhus C → B in PvP
So far I’ve moved things around in the PvE tier lists but not yet in the others. I’m going to try and do some more of it now
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Gryphking Sweep
Yes finally someone said about double nightmare Strike. The one that make this monster strong. Actually in many match this skill save me alot . Player overating euthanasia so much, I am only use euthanasia when I am sure my 3 monster can deal with my opponent monster remaining.
That tier B ,I Will take it. For A tier or higher it feel wrong,since I feel my team build that make this monster great, unlike other high tier monster that basically make my team stronger . (i wish I can give turn her haha)
The gameplay its more like to counter specific set up that only count on 1-2 monster. For player who run something behind AP, or something that really count on attack speed.
Note :
Funny she only have 2 attack skill, and all of them basically high tu move to take down a monster
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I’ve finished doing all the moving stuff around in the tier lists. Feel free to take a look at them to see where everything is
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