Confirmed. Why are u writing this on duck’s acc KD ?
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Duck here, I actually think lemon needs to be nerfed. It’s infuriating that players like cancer can get free wins with no effort when they play terribly and it makes no difference
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You quoted me so much in that thread lol. I can’t even tell what is and isn’t a quote! It’s impressive how well you know the way I write.
As for Lemon…
Yeah she’s very annoying to play against. I think she should’ve had a % chance to sleep each monster on entry from release. That would still make her annoying with good RNG but it would be less of a “game over” the times when you don’t have sleep protection with her instant sleep going into sleep lock with potent sleep.
My vote would be for removing the nerf so far (shield entrance → unmovable) then changing the entrance passive to be 50-60% chance to sleep each monster.
I also think potent sleep should be given the restriction that you can’t use it if you have teammates with sleep skills. It makes no sense that the 50TU sleep move is better in every way than the 70TU sleep move.
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Well in this thread I flat out copy pasted three of your posts into one. The other times I thought it would be funny to copy your writing style to see how condescending I sounded. (you do it much better than I do)
@Dev_VKC see these very constructive analyzes and check for the umpteenth time lemon’s movements
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Oh yeah I see now it’s literally all my own words. I see how they can be read as condescending but in the context they were written it made a bit more sense. Most came from the frustration of people immediately crying nerf or overreacting. The first post starting “Perhaps” was literally me mulling it over, not starting in a condescending way.
Anyway, I don’t want to go defending myself too much. I don’t like Lemon’s design. It’s really annoying to face. I still stand by that it’s not game breaking, monsters exist that handle it and the meta should adapt to things like this that become popular. I’ve actually always wanted sleep to have more of a place in the meta but for it to have effective counters so it’s handled, like the way stun, poison and many other archetypes/mechanics are. It seems all the insomnia handed out and this new, powerful sleep mythic are a step towards that. It’s just a shame they went a bit overboard with Lemon so it can single-handedly win the game if it lines up right.
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Yes, Lemon needs a nerf;
Probably make her tits a little smaller
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If she is going to have 60% sleep from entrence then at least she should not target her own ally. Whole setup just so she can sleep 2 random enemy doesn’t feel worth it, when SE can entrence sleep 1 mon and step back without effecting own mons
Well she’s also losing unmovable so you can pull her back and she’s got shield entrance with high defence + HP and potent sleep. Even if she doesn’t sleep lots of enemies she must be killed before she gets a turn otherwise she’ll take control of the battle.
Ok but my question was will her entrence affect her teammates.
If no, then she will remain almost equally abusable.
If yes, then that’s gonna be one helluva nerf
For my suggestion the answer is yes, it would have a chance to sleep each teammate. If it only did enemies it would be stupidly powerful. I think that would actually be a buff!
Well let’s make Lemon sleep everything including herself
Good for Megabomb strategies
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for me,lemon is strong.maybe rebalance stats is more better then nerf her.maybe reduce deffense but increase attack is better
mmmm no… her stats aren’t even remotely the problem here. she could have the stats of an epic and she’d still be problematic lol. Definitely sucks to have certain attacks be unable to kill her, but considering this is an awakened mythic we’re talking about that’s kinda par for the course. Not that I’d mind such an annoying monster being easier to pick off, but I think I know which change I’d rather have
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