Haven’t read all the arguments but most games are like this. Card games, you will pull out crappy cards, most monster games, there willl be chances of pulling out crappy cards too…
I do think they should reduce the amount of crappy arks in the slot though.
& if only people who buy eggs can get all of these arks, then it becomes a freemium games & majority of people & the devs don’t want it that way.
Really 2.1k gold isn’t even enough to get 8 chances…
It’s not illogical at all.
Like I stated, if you make your customers feel cheated, or like they’ve wasted their money then they’re not likely to part with any more of it in the future. The current system does this, plenty of people have complained about it, so obviously there’s something wrong with it. You can also argue that one of the reasons egg timing became so prevelant is because of this. Without a doubt if you can ‘bend’ the system to give yourself an advantage then there’s always going to be people that do it (just look at all the hackers), but there are also a fair amount of egg timers out there that only learnt to do it because spending money on the eggs was just felt like a waste when you don’t get anything in return.
I myself spent a fair amount buying gold, probably north of £60-70 and had 1 or 2 decent arkadians to show for it, and dozens of worthless ones that would never be used. If I remember correctly it was Bloodclaw and Charcalynx (which isn’t even good without the dreaded charca+stego combo). I could go out and buy a couple of console games for this price, or even a dozen or so iOS games, for the price of two half-decent arkadians in this game, certainly not value for money.
When the update comes out and I can’t time anymore then I will use up the gold I have saved up and when it runs out then it runs out, I can’t justify buying any more unless it’s changed so that we (the users) are actually getting value for our money.
My point is that unless you time then almost no-one is going to get value for their money, and it’s the people that don’t/can’t I feel bad for. I agree there are certain other arkadians that could be left in, for example the starters or hatchlings. Taking all catcheable ones out might be a step too far, but as tajid states there needs to be quite a few taken out, and some rebalancing done to the eggs.
The problem isn’t that egg timing has made the exclusives too common (although that is still a problem). The problem is there are way too many arkadians that you can pull from an egg spin that you can easily catch dozens of for free, making the chances of you paying for something rubbish way too high.
The eggs need to be rebalanced so that it’s fairer on the people spending their money, or the money will stop coming in.
Might sound like I’m bashing the game a bit in this topic and if it does then I don’t mean for it to come across this way, this is genuinely one of my favourite iOS games, but this is something that should be fixed.
Try practicing timing eggs on another account. I did when they had the discount on gold eggs so I made a new file, which came with 250 gold automatically and then bought the discounted gold egg and tried to time getting the 5000 gold in fever mode. Go by colors so when you see the 5000 gold and the color that its on you count how many more of that same color it takes to get to the prize. Then count again and say for example it took 38 yellows to get to 5000 gold you would stop at 36 yellows. You’ll get the hang of it eventually and once you get that 5000 gold you’re set and can keep timing more gold eggs for more 5000 coin prizes.
Not supposed to give advice on timing…
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That wont be appreciated here, although it isnt anything illegal and widely practiced, it is a crime to teach someone through the forum.
It’s not a crime at all and it’s no exploit. You’d be ignorant to just press stop at any given time instead of using a strategy to obtain what you want because you thought it was “wrong” and affected you’re morals.
Hey, im with you buddy, just mentioning you will be bashed here and your post will be deleted. Aside from that Im all up for timing.
Timing technically is an exploit. The devs did not originally want timing in the game, and people found ways to do so, so the devs are patching it.
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I’ve been playing this game for around 3 months now and no update so far. I’ve been just reading that this will improve, the devs will change that and bla, bla, bla. Reality is that if they are so bothered by the egg timing issue, it should have been fixed a ling time ago. This is one if the few apps I have without an update in the period. Some of my other apps have had as many as three updates.
Same problem happened to DIB, got tired of waiting for an updated amd eventually gave up altogether. It seems this game is following the same path.
The devs screwed up from the beginning with the egg timing issue. Being their biggest source of incoming, it was a very amateur move not paying enough attention, not to mention the beta testers not being able to detect in time to avoid the problem.
Simple solution? Release all the arks made available up to now into the wild (eggs and OM).
Take away gold coins as we timers have a lot of them in stock.
Introduce a new system where OM monsters will be given to every player that complete the mission. It is extremely important to reward players rather than wasting their time for no rewards whatsoever.
Eggs should be a feature in the game where you would get for defeating a boss and when you spin it you have only egg exclusives. Obviously one player shouldnt be able to get all of them (more arks than eggs). The end of the season it all stars again,
So where does the money come from then? Special events where you pay 0.99 to play, tournaments, new missions. Everyone would be happy to spend money when they know the game is balanced and you are always rewarded.
And make the development team bigger because such a popular game cannot be without an update for so long. It seems that the company is too small for this game.
It think it is incorrect to say that timing is an exploit that the developers did not intend to exist. Timing eggs was common in dragon island blue and openly discussed in the forums. The developers did make timing a bit harder in HI but they must have known that it could help. I am very bad at timing eggs but I spent a couple of hundred dollars because I thought it would help. I did not want to spend hours farming the same spot… The developers gave a spinning wheel that you control where it stops. For what purpose other than to try to control the outcome. With only a couple of hours of testing, the developers must have known that egg timing helped. Otherwise, why have a spinning wheel at all. The timing of eggs give a lot of players the motivation to spend money. If they get good at it the developers already got their money. The only people that care are the other players who might be encouraged to do it themselves to remain competitive.
The mods continue to state that the devs did not want egg timing. Why should I believe them. They also said that an update would be available in early January if Apple cooperated. The developers post gave the impression that no update was submitted but that they did not want to update the game until they thought they could do it properly. Where are the mods getting their information? I loved DIB and I like HI. I just hope it is not headed toward oblivion like other games I have seen because the developers are more concerned about the next game that will generate huge profits.
In summary, if the devs did not want egg timing, why did they model them after DIB.
After reading all of these I’m happy with some explanations however I’m still not convinced with others. I have no intention of “timing” eggs, it’s just not right and would make a hypocrite out of me, I’m trying to do this fair and it’s not going anywhere which is why I’m so angry. Which leads me to the other side, I can’t help but think that the whole egg system is a scam. I understand it’s a gambling system but it’s a 99 cent game. I should not loose 10 dollars just because I’m “unlucky” it’s not acceptable to me.
Thats the whole point. The odds are lower or at best similar to playing the roulette in the casino, which is incredibly difficult.
I have even seen some guys suggesting that a monster should cost 50 bucks and thats a fair price.
Am I that far away from reality?
As for timing eggs, its up to you really. Although it is a skill that not everybody has.
And if you wanna know why it hasn’t been fixed I tell you just one thing.
Imagine all the timers having the egg exclusives, you cant time and cant beat them on PVP. What do you do? Spend money buying eggs.
If it wasnt for the timers, the exclusive arks wouldnt be popular and people wouldnt risk their money since there would be a balance on PVP.
Like it or not timers made people spend a fortune on this game (as the 3 grand guy) and even some of the timers themselves had to do so to master the wheel.
Honestly, Im tired of people talking nonsense anout timers. Intentionally or not they boosted the egg sales and thats why the issue hasnt been fixed.
Haters are gonna hate.
I’m for whatever will encourage line up diversity. If anything I’d suggest to make certain monsters more rare and difficult to obtain. I fear seeing the same line ups over and over in pvp
Trading would be nice as well. For collection purposes.
Maybe limited time offers on direct purchases of monsters. Not sure what the price point would be, but I suspect people would pay.
@ewertonrodrigo, I don’t think that you get it…I will never be as hardcore to put THAT amount of money into this game :-/ that’s just outlandish… My point being they should be more fair to the people who don’t want to dump a lot into this. I shouldn’t have to. 10 bucks should have got me at least ONE windra, Which is all I wanted. I never had high hopes of goin in and getting a rare off of each spin. I expected one or two bad ones, but two miss on all of them? That surprised me a bit. I’m not against gambling but like multiple posters have stated, you have to win at least once to come back…I haven’t yet and I’m not spending another penny on this game.
I totally get your point and support it, thats why I mentioned the odds being worse than playing the roulette. It is a serious issue that have to be adressed quickly. And that does not mean fixing the timing issue. That action on its own would destroy the game completely as I would not spend any money whatsoever to spin a gold egg. Not to mention that even 10 bucks for a windra is an outrage. 0.99 is more than fair and it would be bad anyway, since you should able to get it for just completing the mission.
.99 cents is far from fair. If this happened, it would be a pay to play game. People who work hard for the om should get te monster. Not the ones who spend money. Eggs are meant to be a gamble. You cant just go in expecting to get the best monster. There is a far greater chance to get a bad monster. Every monster in the eggs is available or will be available in the game at some point. Removing the egg exclusives from the eggs, thats something i can agree with.
Defender of texel. Same gamble. You hope to ge a good card, but you often dont. Do you see people complaining there? No.
@Lyrux, you seem to forget that only the first 10% get the monster… Everyone else gets two windra then they get a crappy mission egg with a slim to none chance of getting the third. The way I see it this IS a pay to play because it only caters to a small percentage based on a first come first serve system. So guess what, that means that everyone with the maxed out super teams already scooped them up. Meanwhile the hard working players like myself and many others who by the way have other responsibilities in life and can’t spend days straight playing this, will now have to pay for mission eggs to try and get om’s. I’m not just complaining I’m making a point and many others feel the same way.
@ewertonrodrigo, my apologies for coming off as attacking you. I did not mean to go off like that 
I see your point and completely get it now.
I think you are asking for too much considering the game is only 99c. You paid the money so you enjoyed the single player game. With the pvp is like an extra DLC for the game. Yes I know it has many glitches, but it’s not the responsibility of the devs to babysit every player. They could have made this game to be paid to enter in pvp, and it is still more than worthy for 99c. If you keep complaining about why others have overpowered you so much, maybe you should be considering why didn’t you farm the arks, train your team well or even learn to time the eggs. All of them actually takes time to obtain, and it will benefit to those who are willing to do that. In this case it’s fair if you are been beaten in pvp.
@jasnology, I have every ark you can get that doesn’t involve an om or timed exclusivity, including the starters and dragons. Training up doesn’t matter as all arks are scaled to level 75 no matter what. And I refuse to time eggs because it’s an unfair advantage people may say otherwise but that’s just how I feel. And this is literally the first time putting money into this game since purchase soo not exactly a good first impression. Would you not be irritated?
To be honest I fully understand your position because I am like that too 
But however I get OM rewards quite often because I trained my team well.
It’s a headache to spend real money on the eggs. And I agree how that disappoints you when the reward is completely rubbish.
So I just try my best to get om arks as well as going for infinite doungon, the reward is also not bad for me. I mean with the same situation I guess I still enjoy the game so far