I know this topic has been discussed quite a bit already, but I wanted to streamline the conversation and focus on some specific points. The current state of Euthanasia feels overpowered—allowing a monster to simply enter the field and take out any key monster of its choice is incredibly frustrating.
Initially, I thought the high TU was a fair trade-off, but reflecting on my matches, the control it hands back to the enemy outweighs the supposedly “high” TU. It just doesn’t feel balanced when considering its impact in practice.
My Thoughts:
I believe Euthanasia was initially designed as a counter to Bastia and stunners, especially given the timing of its release. However, after receiving a few buffs, it feels like we’re left with an “uncounterable counter to counters,” which creates serious balance issues.
Restrict Euthanasia to only target monsters with no kills or humanoids.
This way, it retains its intended role without being excessively disruptive in other situations. Bastia, for instance, typically wouldn’t have scored a kill, so the ability would still function as designed without dominating matchups unfairly.
What are your thoughts on this? Are there other ways to balance Euthanasia while preserving its intended utility?
Everyone was dreaming of a 100 % condition to setup his stun entrance, giving her on anniversary made her everywhere in every team ,every endgame now had 2-3 stun entrances mixed with roaring entrances so now we will be back to stun protection every 2-3 slots , I faced her many times in my first 10 pvp games already , that euthanasia should be re- adjusted to what it was no killing unless the monster has made a kill
As someone who has always tried to promote the need for synergy, teambuilding and combos, I think it’s always dangerous when something can come flying in and eliminate any target.
Leira is very strong but she doesn’t have void focus instant nor roaring entrance. Her entrance can be countered too while also having overall worse kit than Nightingale.
Torazu was 6tu away from getting his turn before leira and after her he was 2tu away. So you need to have a monster less than 4tu away from his turn to be able to manage leira and yet it is the fact that this monster is capable of one-shotting the latter. Basically she has a roaring entrance. Yes she can be stopped by Bastia but in 100 players probably 5 use it for that while being consistent. Even without nightingale the poison end was still a meta strategy despite the existence of Bastia so meh.
Yes nightingale kills with void effect. But leira leaves something that can introduce other combos (carmillete/cent/true hit). In addition it adds three soldiers that can be decisive in the fights are tight. So personally yes nightingale is too strong and well leira too it’s almost the same thing
That’s the problem with nightingale I’d wager . When a counter monster removes a target monster out of the meta , it should also vanish out of meta . And the cycle should repeat but now it doesn’t matter cos in the current state nightingale will always remain OP regardless of what it originally tried to counter . This might be another classic example of overbuffing !
Option 1. Euthanasia= Kill 1 + give temporary stun imune to all enemy (Until she get a turn). No interaction with her and stun anymore.
Option 2. Her entrance can be blocked by other field passive. So she Will have similiar kit like Leira.
Option 3. Just left her.
But personally
As long as we don’t have roaring guardian demise or other roaring monsters that specifically counter Fast sweepers. I still need Euthanasia to counter the tanky monster/fast sweeper monster behind Ap or the one supported by Bastia.
If you see her assume there is a stunner behind her so killing two monsters will trigger the stun and if you have a stun counter on the field it will get a turn before her and kill her.
Secondly she is a support monster her main task is to take out a single target and help setup the entrance, if this factor is ruined then this mythic is useless.
there should be no free wins simply for running her