Did overconfident got nerfed?

Neo Monsters
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Is nice to hear logic from a old player

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K you convinced me. I guess it should be like it is right now. It was just super strange to see valza do 6000 damage to gyo just after i sid about 3500-4000 to his oak

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This aint a nerf Gyo thread, thats how confident strike should work. The reason also the confident strikers deal way less damage in the 70-99% range is because they take defense into the account, with Gyo ignoring defense, expect that it will still deal high damage in that range but it wont one shot every monster compared to 100%.

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The moves serve to completely different purposes on two very different monsters. Every change of overconfident strike towards making it more equal to confident strike would be big time nerf for Gyo. And Gyo is totally fine the way it is right now

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My lowest this far has been 3.6 k to Dusicyon

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My lowest is about 2.7k to Armavolt and 3.6k to Aegis.

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I have to clarify that we didnā€™t touch Gyoā€™s skills except LINK Slayerbane All in the last update.

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Can you guys touch Aegis? It needs a change.

Diamonoid outclasses it in every way.

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Can you clarify on how overconfident strike damage ranges? To clear the confusion in the community

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Or at least clarify how it works on monsters with less than 50 % speed because itā€™s a bit strange that you totally have to rely on rng when using overconfident on a monster with low speed/high HP. But if I would know that for example itā€™s very unlikely for Gyo to one shot oak, I wouldnā€™t even try and think of a different way to get rid him.

Besides that: Iā€˜m very happy that the vast majority agreed on the fact that Gyo is just fine as it is and definitely needs a buff or a nerf. Also overconfident Strike definitely needs to stay as it is right now. With all the annoying buff/nerf threads out there itā€™s good to see that this discussion came to a reasonable end

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Nothing needs to change in regards to Gyo or any monster for that matter. Gyo already got nerfed so any ā€˜suggestionsā€™ on how overconfident should work would be pushing it to death.

Okay, now that iā€™ve said that iā€™m going to be a complete hypocrite and ask for aegis to be 2 cost (4 with the ss), since itā€™s a glorified diamonoid.

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I know Iā€™m not always a 100% accurate source but I reckon the Devs wonā€™t explain it soā€¦

Damage range is roughly 3900-4760, average = 4330.
The damage varies evenly over that range so 25% chance for 3900-4115, 4115-4330, 4330-4545 or 4545-4760.
e.g. for Oakthulu, 4221 health, the chance is 63% for a one-shot.

In general, any monster with 60%+ speed will be a guaranteed one-shot.
50-60% speed = 80-100% chance for one-shot
40-50% speed = 67-80% chance for one-shot
30-40% speed = 55-67% chance for one-shot
20-30% speed = 42-55% chance for one-shot
10-20% speed = 31-42% chance for one-shot

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Not the exact, just wanna make sure if the mechanics for its damage is the same as the regular confident strike

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That it deals more when at 100% health? Iā€™m almost certain 70-100% health it does exactly the same damage.

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Exactly

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Iā€™ve had two instances this far I tried overconfident on Oak. Both were in pvp and both times he was 1 shotted with 4.6-4.8 k damage.

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Was Gyo at full health?

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I need to look at this next time but probably was

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Yeah that should happen

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pretty sure gyo is an exception to the 100% hp rule.