I just removed a bunch of posts going on about F2P vs P2W and/or throwing accusations against DonT. Please be respectful everyone. If more posts are made like that I will simply close the thread and take action against the instigators.
Suikenshi 2nd form is probably not one DonT89 is talking about. It is not very strong, even when combined with Jaguardian.
The mythics I think are too good in 2nd form compared to their final form are:
Kirina
Lemon
Leira
Then maybe:
Don Rilla
Sivanna
But Don Rilla lacks damage a bit and Sivanna has bloodfury in final form so both get a boost in their damage capability, just arguably not worth the cost increase.
So out of 58 mythics in the game that’s 3-5 that maybe need tweaking. There are a bunch which are usable in second form but there’s a big difference between “usable” and “too close in strength to the final form”.
Here are the simple fixes I’d propose (for 2nd forms): Kirina - 70TU moves Lemon - fairy’s dust with 50% chance of sleeping each enemy, 100% each teammate Leira - tidal entrance with 40s passing Don Rilla - 130TU second gun, maybe also 160TU retaliate Sivanna (final form) - 80TU void killer moves / better SS / buffed ferocious revenge damage
The final form is significantly better because it has a lower chance to die. Also, assisted blaze is far better damage than the hit all from second form
Exactly, like Cynthia who is great in 2nd form but the final form is definitely better.
There are a bunch of mythics like that which I think are being mistaken as “too good in 2nd form” when it’s just that the monster overall is very strong.
It is not true … I think that a FL Jazguardian + aegisdragon + Suikenshi 2nd form + heaven / angelion … Allows you to kill whoever you want with suikenshi 2nd form, they could not direct their attack … I have seen them as a companion of my Clan has tested it and its attack from suikenshi 2nd form kills everyone ignores maintaining territory … And only in 2nd form is it very powerful … I have only seen that the only one that does not kill is raizen and lightning with a lot of defense … taking that’s very op, very fast difficult to kill aegis + stealth … and the most powerful there is suikenshi
There are plenty of far more powerful front line combos. Suikenshi 2nd form isn’t very good past that initial kill because it dies easily, has no defensive/supportive passives, has a slayerbane that won’t one-shot many things and needs two kills before it can sweep with a blood move. It’s FAR weaker than the final form and not used by any of the top PvP teams (I know it does see some use in the top 50/100 teams but you don’t see those getting top 10 and there’s a reason why… it’s not good enough).
that it is used in the top 50 already means that it is OP … I don’t see many myths in 2nd form in the top 10 … Except lemon and suikenshi … tell me if kirina and the other myths you mention are in the top 10 in 2nd form … that I know of … none
@DonT89 I’m disappointed to see you posting stuff like this again because before you took your break you actually developed into a player who would actually try to improve and search for solutions instead of complaining about everything that causes him trouble in game.
You claim that you put a lot of thought into your post but tbh with you your opening post is nothing but arrogant moaning without providing ans actual substance.
Instead you address the devs with these kind of words
I mean you can write stuff like that but it’s not “I put a lot of thought into my post” it’s “Devs are stupid and I’m super smart” in other words.
Next claim from you is that Devs aren’t able to balance monsters properly when the topic you address involves like a handful monsters from what number? Thousands. Actually 99 % of the game are balanced. There are a few exceptions, I agree, and this definitely need to be addressed. But with such an arrogant attitude you won’t achieve anything.
And you know what is funny? You don’t even care about game balance, you just want the broken stuff hidden behind a huge paywall. I think everyone agrees that there is nothing wrong with strong monsters behind a paywall but broken monsters simply shouldn’t exist, that’s what the term “broken” tells you: It’s not alright.
This is once again one of your classic complaints about strong stuff that causes you trouble and makes you lose against players you think you shouldn’t lose against because they didn’t spend as much as you. You even admitted this publicly, or to use your own words: “Let me refresh your mind”
I don’t want to make this an F2P vs P2W Thread but people should know what this is really about. You happily accept broken stuff if you can buy it, but you can’t accept strategy beating money, that’s always been the issue
I am new here in the forum … it really seems very exaggerated to delete that, since it is not an insult or offense, he @ItsSherlock is simply expressing his opinion here
