YO!!!! I WANT EVEN MORE BUFFS: 2nd Massive Buff Thread (not as big as the previous one but extremely boring as well)

Your all guide help me a lot and many new players and community. Of course criticizing it may improve the guide but i’m seeing it everywhere and everything can’t be perfect for everyone.

Hahaha thats golden . I thought he is a freak to post a pic of all those cubes between this thighs . Sorry duck :sweat_smile:

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New Mythic confirmed?

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Could we keep this thread in topic @Killerdog you should be the one to write this message…

You’re right, sorry for my part. Let’s keep this as a conversation about the monsters in the original post or about similar monsters who could be buffed.

Ok so going back to the original thread topic what harm would do to give Leogeist Purify… I think is nothing crazy and perfectly fits the design much more than life flip self

What makes Purify fit Leogeists design more than Life Flip Self?

It makes it slightly more powerful and that’s it. Budding it wouldn’t cause many problems bc giving it purify still keeps it in S tier, but I don’t really think there’s a need to buff leogeist since it’s already quite powerful.

Leogeist doesn’t need any changes

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I love it when monsters have a moveset that has one slot free, so it can be some random support move. I think more monsters should be designed like that and have something like lifeflip friend or purifying stealth teammate. I’m a big fan of Prismaryx having lifeflip friend for that reason.

So you’d think I’d support Leogeist getting purify. However, I don’t like how that makes Leo a counter to stun, sleep AND poison. It’s not necessarily OP, but I think it’s not so nice when individual monsters can potentially shut down so much.

Lifeflip on Leogeist doesn’t necessarily fit the design but I do find myself using it… so it’s not a pointless move. Previously I suggested they change it to “charge crescendo” which heals Leo a small amount and adds to crescendo but they already buffed crescendo so I don’t know what I feel about that now. Simply changing it to lifeflip friend I’d like too… giving some random support on a monster that doesn’t need all its move slots. However, it would need a restriction from the start of battle.

I’m not questioning any of that though, just why he says Purify “perfectly fits Leogeists moveset” more than Life Flip Self.

@MementoMori I have not read the other monster buffs you mentioned but I’m not discussing any other than Leogeist for this bit.

First thing I suppose is the suggestion of Hold Ground on Leogeist as compared to other Crescendo Monsters. Leogeist already has Stun Counter, one of the best abilities in the game, giving it Hold Ground would be a bit overkill. Shivadragon, Polaboss and Excaliburdragon all have Hold Ground, yes, but aside from Polarboss neither Excali or Shiva have another passive to benefit from. Comparing Leogeist to Angelion simply because they share a passive is a far stretch, they are in no way the same monster nor should they share similar roles outside the Passive they share. It’s like comparing Cybereon to Tridrakhan, yes they both have Stunning Entrance but nothing else in common whatsoever.

The other thing I guess is the Life Flip Self complaint. I’m not sure what you go up against on the regular, I have been at your Rank before though with my own Leogeist and I can tell you Leo is a surprisingly tanky monster and able to benefit off it’s own Life Flip move quite nicely alot of the time.

I still am failing to see why Purify fits perfectly with Leogeist as opposed to Life Flip Self. If you want to take lore into it, Leogeist is a ghost so the Life Flip makes sense as it’s hard to kill a ghost?

… What i get from that introduction is that you think I’m trying to get your support suggesting changes that would look right to you and in that point you’re completely wrong because i really don’t care if you support me or not BUT you’re maybe the player with more knowledge of this game so I’m interested in your point of view

And i love this one is so cool when i find you contradicting yourself because in the past you have said how angelion is a necessary evil to this game because how he counters all 3 archetypes

And Leogeist was my 1st legendary and hadn’t left my team since then and I’m sure i might be one of the people with better knowledge about him and purify fits perfectly on him because he already has a support profile not only because of Stun Counter but Inspire as well and will fit a 100 times more than a self life flip in a no HG monster and you all say it can come in handy sometimes which is right but those “some times” are extremely FEW and it’s very hard to have a monster limited to 1 move crescendo strike because crescendo blast is rarely used and Ultrathunder All much more rarer and about Inspire i know this move looks OP on paper but in real life is truly bad because the moment you inspire a teammate you make it a priority target to the enemy an you’re just telling him which one is your most important monster so he can remove it form the field by killing it (with piercing because there is no point ispiring anything if it isn’t shielded of has HG) or repulsing it so to summarize Inspire is only good in some specific combos and in very rare cases outside that it’s just 3 extra cost wasted on nothing

Cyberion has Shocking entrance 120 sec stun and Tridrakhan Stunning entrance 80 sec stun. And what I’m doing with leo and angel is comparing 2 legendaries with VERY unique Passives it would be the same as comparing Sobeking to Malwing

Sorry, the “you’d” in my post was meaning “one would”. It’s not targeted at you.

You’re right about me contradicting myself saying Angelion is good for the game but adding purify to Leogeist is not so good. However, my thinking there is that purify all is 100TU while Leogeist is high speed and would have 50TU purify. Leo could come in and wake up the team / remove poison very quickly as well as continue to remove poison regularly. Realistically Angelion doesn’t counter poison much. It’s definitely a stronger counter to sleep with its insomnia but the lower speed does hold it back in some cases.

Basically yeah I am contradicting myself but I went down a different line of thinking with Leogeist and how it’s a fine monster without purify so slapping it on makes it an almost unnecessary counter to sleep/poison, especially poison.

Which people dont do because they each have a radically different role to play.

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Isn’t everyone complaining about how poison last so long and how is the most powerful archetype atm and etc doesn’t it deserves one more counter?..

Do we have a single poison immune purifier yet (besides Maggatsuoh with the one-time purify)? I think that would be a great place to start if they want more counters to poison.

To be honest I’d say stun is the most powerful archetype right now. It’s got a bunch of powerful tools for setting it up and it’s why people have been leaning so heavily into stun protected teams this past year or two. Poison is in a good place compared to the past where it was generally underpowered (after being very good for the first year of the game). That’s all just my opinion though.

I feel like stun and sleep are a lot more powerful now and poison was always good to begin with. If they wanted to balance this they could do something about lemon and nerf novadrake and/or time’s up.

The only thing keeping sleep alive in pvp is lemon and stag