⏬ Which monsters need a Nerf?

Releases of 90% speed legendaries and boosting old ones with high speed did not help.

Everything over 50% speed should have their Instant SS skills restricted to 100tu since the start of the battle. Stuff like Azida, Shadowyrm and any Instant Shield ally combos have too much frontline power over slower setups.

Nyx is at the center of the problem because if there aren’t faster monsters that can kill her before she does Fermata, the Nyx user pretty much automatically wins.

If Fermata didn’t increase Tu permanently, it wouldn’t be such a big problem. Mantiferno and the likes could counter it.

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They should have made 2-3 slightly weaker counters rather than one major one.

Nyx is another example of speed being combated by more speed lol.

Anyway, going back to the original point, I still think we need to rework one or two monsters, just to allow some viability for protectors. With raw, focus and true hit, there isn’t much danger of the AP spam meta coming back, but they’ve been hit too hard.

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Maybe you all should stop running 4 x 85 speed and then crying about fermata destroying those. Adding Megalo to your already fast frontline does not solve the issues of speed becoming a deciding factor in matches.

Not really, since you can’t play her with fast mons unless you are good to have them being slowed as well.

You talking about speed fls I agree with 100% but what you suggested there is nerfing moves that will promote AP spam , what’s wrong in someone using protection and risk true hit ? Or assassinate?

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Unicera Nikki true hit at that speed isn’t justified.

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Lol :joy: let me guess you used to use an AP and and shiny spectre to counter padri ? Right but I bet you did it in the past

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I wanna get top 1 with shieldragon again next month so I agree. Add shadowyrm to that list btw

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So I think what I’m saying is that slower FLs can work if they can be protected. Also synergy in general because you can protect your key monster in a strategy.

Whereas the super fast True Hits and assassinates of the world prevent that. Especially when there’s little risk of running them.

I’m not worried of an AP spam meta because everyone will be able to counter it easily with raw and focus moves which are pretty common now.

See if that’s pretty much its only purpose, I don’t mind that so much, because there’s a serious drawback to it. But yeah maybe you’re right.

the only thing nikki does good rn is tht tbh , the other thing requires an awakened myth .

Or just a Taloknight to charge and accelerate her at 97% speed.

That remains as a deadweight for 300 tu , we both know how that works lol even that is a 14 cost investment .
Look before u reply other than OOO setup which doesn’t have a problem with that no other competitive teams will run nikki talo/ apollo , the only thing that makes it actually viable is unicera.

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We both know how that combo works because me and you used it so do not play dumb here. lifeflip self into lava entrance (if you do not use OoO with her)

Edit for the @NMEduck being a total ■■■■■■■.

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Coltraz playing dumb by suggesting OoO + lava entrance :skull:
(it’s either too close to the OoO or too far away from talo/apollo)

Where did I say OoO, stop smoking

@Unholy_Prem literally just said that it’s only competitive with OoO and he’s not wrong about that. You didn’t say OoO but it’s the only viable option, which is why you were either playing dumb or not playing.

Well, I guess not.



blud can’t read :joy:

Prem already said that nikki is only good with unicera or OoO. Lava entrance is a stupid suggestion because nikki + apollo/talo is only good if you’re also using OoO.