Which monster do you want to see Buffed 🄳

Reduce his fuse explosion to 300 or 250 pls, its hard to activate since the stun nerf and i like using it​:backhand_index_pointing_right::backhand_index_pointing_left:

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It never was popular because of how weak his attacks are.

And piercing in ice breaker would be nice

Yeh since they are reviving old myth maybe they will give a look to him

Piercing in retaliate and void in second gun @Dev_VKC

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His moveset is garbage, without piercing it’s hard to be of any use. Its moveset is garbage, without pierce it’s hard to be of any use considering the current meta.

I have it and I don’t use it, at first I tried to use it but it was in vain, its performance is not what I expected for something with such a good design.

Also it would be really nice if he was considered an honorary bear (make it in lore reason for donrilla having a crush on Kumachi and Kumachi accepting him to her family). He would be mythic version of bearpaw or whatever that holy bear legendary is called.

this bear already exists its called snowbear i believe he has water element

Add in a 100% def / attack boost as well :sweat_smile:.

It would be nice if they increased the damage to Icebreaker.

Rather than giving everything void or piercing, perhaps his banana protein shake could beef up his stats?

I’ve used Don Rilla a bunch and found him to be very solid. That said, as a generic sweeper (which I presume most people use him as) he’s not as good as other options. He was always waiting to be outclassed in that way.

What makes Don Rilla great is the sleep immunity and repent. He basically works as sleep protection for your mid-game as well as a healer for HG monsters that don’t rely on blood moves. 50TU heal + purify is very efficient. He’s also a fine choice for beast union or link storm. In the mid-game he’s pretty much always going to do 100TU sweeping, he just can’t deal with defence buffed enemies.

For some numbers… second gun and retaliate do the same damage. I’m pretty sure Don Rilla deals ~5300 damage to full defence monsters. So that one-shots basically everything. It’s just earth monsters, some tanky stuff with HP boost or if you get bad RNG on the damage or, of course, if they’ve got a defence buff.

Cmon bro, I’ll believe it when I actually see that ā€œsolidā€ team with Don Rilla showing up on a top20 list.

Also, LINK and ELEM Storm are just not a thing when you’re building with this:

I’m sure the devs have usage stats on this mythic, but based on my PvP experience, this is a completely dead pick in the current environment where every viable unit either sweeps with piercing or has void to shut things down fast.

I just checked and there are nearly the same number of SOLO storm monsters as there are LINK or ELEM ones.

Don’t worry, don rilla is still in A tier so a buff can wait :sob:

When you have a load of mythics available to you then link teams are pretty much off the menu apart from shadow and water or some specific builds. Mythics have barely been designed for it.

Being a ā€œsolid teamā€ doesn’t mean it needs to be a super competitive team that will top a leaderboard.

I haven’t pushed on the PvP leaderboard in years but I’ve had plenty of teams including Don Rilla that had a high enough win rate to be up there. I can’t remember if I included him in a link storm setup I had but one of my successful teams last year had a FL of Xanacorn, XYZ-999L, Voidress, Wooloid with Motordragon 5th. The rest of the team wasn’t link storm, it was just to get Xanacorn going.

EDIT: Just looked back at some teams and I see one with Nyx FL that used Don Rilla and Shikabloom. I remember that team being successful in the season I used it. Its 49% speed is good for that.

It’s all just hypothetical. I could also claim Scyber is solid (spoiler: it’s really not) just because I only had two losses in the first two days of ranked, so my win rate looked impressive.

And that really should not be the case. A big collection should allow you to build powerful LINK or ELEM teams that outperform standard multi-element lineups. But instead, using LINK or ELEM often feels like a drawback rather than a reward. There is little incentive to run LINK teams because the payoff just does not match the effort of expanding your element collection and creating strong synergies.

What? I’m confused. So first you say the monster isn’t good because there is no PvP record showing it can perform, then now you change your tune and say a record doesn’t prove it’s good??

I completely agree. I’d love this game to be more archetypal, where the best teams are structured by intentional design and we each do our unique spin on it as we build our variant (with our creativity, for meta reasons, due to our collection restraints, etc). However, it’s sadly not the way the game has been developed and part of that reason is mythics are too expensive to be made for only specific archetypes that they need to be mostly generic (otherwise they don’t sell).

What I’ve begged VKC for is trying to find the right balance where a monster is perfectly viable in general use but becomes stronger with the right archetypal synergy. You can see them doing some of that with conditional stats buffs or things like Mai’s sonic fang becoming piercing with union.

The Prismegasus buff was a huge win I think. It’s mega strong now and does a lot to make link teams worthwhile.

On the whole though, we have a little too much stuff that enable S tier spam as the strongest strategy. It would take a lot to shift the game away from that. They really needed to make archetypes the focus years ago to get things on that track.

One generic question,

How long ago was that? 5 years ago when you used to use starstrike sleep link strom??

No personal attack friend but truth is truth.

In past 2 years i haven’t seen donrilla in higher pvp, only some of us who have small collection of myths use him cuz we don’t have much and wanna use the awaken we have

An improvement for Lucifelle would be good, at least a defense enhancer, any super epic kills him

That long ago I was using him in 2nd form and even then finding him good :wink: As mythics became common I had to wait until I awakened him for the extra damage though.

I completely agree that these days he’s benched by people who have a large collection. It’s true for myself as well. Him, Wilhelmina and a bunch of other perfectly fine mythics rarely come off the bench meanwhile ones like Momo and Evie slot into most of my teams. Personally, I find it’s because when building teams I need a number of checkboxes to be filled, so monsters that are mostly only going to offer sweeping don’t get played much and if they’re outclassed (e.g. Evie outclasses many sweepers) then I am either picking them for fun or a specific synergistic reason.

That’s why I said what Don Rilla offers is repent with sleep immunity. That’s the niche and it’s pretty cool in the right setups. Simply as a generic sweeper it will always be benched once you own other options.

I also don’t think being benched is necessarily justification for buffing. Particularly in cases like Don Rilla where its niche is probably being underutilised by people and it’s a powerful monster even if it doesn’t match up to its S tier cousins. I mean, you know how many strong legendaries I own that are perfectly viable but I very rarely play?? It would be silly to go buffing them all.

This kind of reasoning is exactly what keeps the current meta untouched while everything outside of it continues to sit unused on people’s accounts.

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