This limited list thing has to go or be removed from ranking pvp what’s the use of hatching strong pvp legend when you can only use 1 or 2 this list just has to go it’s running the pvp experience.
@Dev_VKC you have to take feedback from the players
If you agree that this list has to go leave a “hell yeah”
Also @Killerdog don’t merge this topic with others this topic ask for the list to be completely scraped not altered.
What do you guys think about limited monsters list?
I’d like to see an explanation on limiting Cynthia even after her nerf. Is that just an admission that the nerf wasn’t good enough or what? Also a relatively small amount of players have her, looks like they’re targeting a certain group of players…
Same can be said for Sui being limited so hard. Not a lot have him anyway, and you’re basically making people choose between getting walled by AP spam or not use any of those other monsters.
I think the Idea of the list in general is cool but the current execution is poor. It’s targeting all the wrong things and it’s not even a rotating system.
People with a lot of mythics get a free pass at embracing power creep while players with mostly legendaries or small collections in general are highly limited in their team building.
Developers couldn’t come up with a good way, as the goal was to create team diversity. Limitation is the worst option. Because many users want to use monsters and save or buy gems, but developers keep them from using. Despite the product being put out, it’s strange.
There must be many ways to strengthen unused monsters, launch new monsters, and so on. However, developers are incompetent and are just trying to limit and let users think.
I wrote a longer reply here which basically says what I want to write in this thread.
The main point I want to make is that the restriction list is being picked by what’s most used. So yes a few monsters and remaining most used even with the restrictions and they’re staying on. However, I wouldn’t put that down as a fault of the system, it’s a fault of the meta not changing enough. I think putting harsher restrictions or more monsters on the list (as they have done) will probably end up with a better result because then people won’t use the restricted monsters so much that they’re not restricted next time.
So relating that to hatching and how it’s not worth going for top monsters is a little hasty I think.
I believe in this system but if any of you have better ideas then I’m all ears.
Implementing rules like the one in sp would bring diversity not limiting monsters. Even after this same thing will come up in meta now that suikenshi is limited you will see rock lock next season they won’t be any diversity!!! People will always copy what works ! Only time I see diversity is during the sp rule. Top pvp is the same thing I only played ranking less than 10 times on my second account and it was the same thing all round, players with mythics mostly play similar strategies which is no strategy at all!! Most just play kill scaling mythics with aethrone ( key word “most”). Top f2p players it’s either stun immune spam or stun and that’s it.
Here is my team as you can see not much is limited and I’m not complaining for the selfish reasons.
Also this limitations affects small players in an obvious way of making them choose between their best monsters which is usually a small
I wholeheartedly agree on that and how the special rule periods are the time when it truly mixes up what people play.
However, what would be your fix to it?
Also, I see a lot of comments of “well it doesn’t affect me but it will affect other people” and overreactions like “now that suikenshi is limited you will see rock lock next season and there won’t be any diversity”… which also contradicts what GMagic said “Same can be said for Sui being limited so hard. Not a lot have him anyway”.
I know I’m always the arsehole in these situations, being critical of others and having a controversial opinion. However, I think a few things are being blown out of proportion and the people actually affected by a list of restrictions where they have to power down their team because it happened to restrict all their good monsters is very small. For the vast majority it’s either not affecting them much at all or simply pushing them to make a new team because they copied the meta.
It’s a very interesting point about it making hatching for S+ legendaries less desirable. However, in the long run I feel like this is probably a good thing for the game if people start looking to the other good monsters more and it should also even out if the restriction list is pushing people away from monsters enough that they can be unrestricted next time.
Restrictions are way better than nerfing the S+ tier mons but I must agree that it could be executed better.
And the restrictions are in rotation anyways so I don’t feel it’s really bad.
P.S my endgame is ruined and I don’t even have any ideas left poor me
I said it once and I’ll say it again. Restrictions won’t ever ever improve diversity. People will always run the next best option. Make a change and within a week, everyone will be running similar things again. This is a nature law.
It’s kinda obvious that most of players don’t like this limited list thing or at least “don’t like the way it’s being executed”. I think we should open a pool to clear this out anyway.
Another problem this creates is that with time, players will start thinking on what is the point on buying gems to get a good monster…if you won’t be able to use two or three of those good monsters at the same time🤔. You waisted your money in at least one of those three.
I mean, do people buy gems to get “normal” monsters?. No, people will always try to get the best stuffs…and best stuffs are the most used ones. But then, those most used ones are the most limited ones so…what’s the point on getting/spending money on something you won’t properly use?.
The game was fine before all these limitations. When a change in meta was needed, they nerfed some monsters and that was it.
I hate it. Imagine grinding for a few monsters and then having them restricted. It makes no sense. Devs should balance the meta without the need for this. Players with larger collections will ultimately be ok and others won’t.
A little out of topic what I’m gonna say but…
Is that jacodragon really needed there? He kinda screw your 5th and 6th spot combination. And also nultron
