I think its safe to assume payback killer will kill anything no matter what. Over 8k against a earth type monster.
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They donāt have u against a team in your league! Feel sorry for them. You probably GT it again and killed their Viridi next haha
Haha well that was just a random fight against ai for testing purposes xD
Just to clarify in case you werenāt aware. The bird can only kill monsters with a death or payback revenge. Not stun or poison revenge monsters. I donāt think he will go in my team. Personally,
Wall breaker is great, but especially in a meta with a lot of ret flās I will be keeping my icefang in 5th. Wallbreaker also will leave him with nothing until approx 150 sec (potted) is over or a give turn. Sendback seems strong tho. Payback killer will only work based on my experience, practically only if youāre playing @GaryOak lol.
Other mons would be
Hellfox
Throw all dude
Turt
Rhino Pufferfish and green wolf thing
Ultima
Deathwarg
Divine shield bird and dragon
Mortar triceratops
Talo & Firedrake
I hope I didnt miss anyā¦
Out of these, Ultima, Turt, and Fox seemed to be the most played and even then I donāt see them too often and turt is normally a liability in my eyes on the other team.
Needless to say, I love the design tho! Great monster, just not one I will be putting on my team.
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I whole-heartedly agree. Those were my exact thoughts too. Itās a SE protector counter aka a worse version of Jawshank which comes with a counter to DR too if we ever need that somewhere. Raw bloodfury makes it slightly more versatile but itās still too restrictive to be used in top PvP teams unless you know itās going to work in the current meta.
Itās good to see how strong payback revenge is, so it can be used in all PvE content except UC if we face a battle with lots of DR.
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Damn. I really need to start grinding. What an amazing monster! I also love how the first evolve name is Turbo 
I NEād at that
Really good monster love the design i would love it more if it had solo instead of raw or has stun immunity which would make it amazing.
I still perfer ice feng because so that i can get to that gyo or bb hiding behind protectors.
Iād prefer shark, quicker and is never a burden
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Thanks for the clarification. Didnāt know that. Probably not S+ super epic then. But still very good mon. Now the devs will release one with an enhanced payback killer that negates all revenge moves. They will call it:
āRevenge Killerā
I guess thatās why Shark is a legend and Aviaeronix SE?
Does payback killer stop the DR triggering?
If it does, Rip Gary.
If it doesnāt then it would seem a bit counterintuitive, since the DR mon still fulfilled its main purpose.
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it does stop the dr triggering
Nonono, thatās why shark has a motorbike and Aviaeronix doesnāt
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U r wrongā¦ Avia has betterā¦ not 1 but 4 rockets on itās backā¦ To support itās send back "We are blasting off again kek "
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I would love to earn that new bird SEā¦ but pvp sucks hard at the momentā¦
Many connection problems on opponent site and mine aswellā¦ and just op-opponents if you find oneā¦
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Will turt copy the bird if it is killed by payback killer?
No it wonāt
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@Dev_VKC why is a motorcycle faster than a jet pack in Neo?
Also why do you keep nerfing me? 
Maybe they think you are op. Who knowsā¦
Their testing your resolve to be a mod lol
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