Tenguko Discussion

Its a C tier, fun monster to use yes change the flow of the game no.

Her kit is fun thus i do not wish to change it, tweak it, so she does what her kit is suppose to do and have a decent chance against poison end game

@Mr.X why did you awaken her if you thought she was not amazing. Do not awaken crap monsters and then ask for boosts. I just awaken Uraniumedhus knowing it is not even close to A tier in PvP.

Maybe try something you accused KD of and hatch only when something amazing comes?

Saying that NOTHING should be boosted or nerfed until HongHua is moved up from F to at least E tier.

Firstly i awoke her simply due to the kit being fun, and i tested her and give my feedback on her issues and suggestions how its possible to keep the same theme by making two small tweaks to the kit to make her viable in top pvp

Lets go over what she does then

  1. She enters and stuns enemy monsters meaning if you use her in a controlled way she is guranteed a turn

  2. She has the piercing skill remover in case of monsters with gravity field so she can set up her own skill shapeshift with little to no issues at 59 secs

  3. She sets up a hazy field to set up her own kill skill dual stealthbane this can also set up stealth monsters in terms of stealthbane and sneak attack depending on your need

  4. Shapeshift steals a monster at 50-100% hp this can be used to either steal a monster of such high value the enemy is forced to kill it of IE voidress giving you time to setup your acctual plan

  5. Used togheter with monsters that has switch friend you can do 4. Several times

  6. Random repulse has the exact same faulty mechanic as moves like neko cannon who is supposed to target randomly but will at 99% of the time target the last monster to enter the field this can be played around

(Edit) 7. Personaly i dont see the SS as super useful unless you run alot of HG monsters that can benefit from a swift heal. But there is so many ā– ā– ā– ā–  secret skills that needs a looking at so yeet her onto the pile

So basicly she does exactly as advertised on paper she supports with kill potential. Not sweeping potential

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We both know this is a bad passive and you yourself said you have trouble with it. The game is no longer the same there are soo many stun counters now and stun absorber revenge

Remover is decent, but the number of tragets are limited making this almost a dead skill, also this is another reason i would include to change her mechanics to sacrifice then revive so you can copy gravity field monsters instead of forcing to use either remover or double stealthbane

Isnt that her main purpose, also take note its a double edge sword as you can set the opponent monsters too

Shapeshift is the main skill of this monster and its the sole reason why you would like to hatch this monster for its a fun skill but not op, also using this skill gives away the tempo

The main issue of this skill is that it work against itself, send the user back to your reinforcement and if you have no reinforcement its a dead skill.

It will work in pve but not pvp as pvp is fast and you cant risk giving away your tempo.

Why are you against normal repulse and remove the rng factor ?

The SS is completely out of place, she has full attacking stats, no holding ground, no perfect stance or defense boost why its there ? Thus i suggested insta purifying mist all that fits her kit sets her up and her team

If she is support, why does she have full attacking stats as far as i know support monsters have full defensive stats. Further more am not turning her to a sweeper just making sure she is viable in top tier pvp without changing almost anything

Very interesting coming from you.

Sound like you got a monster but want it to be better then it suppose to be

Why ?, i never liked shockers, i played them in the past as stun was op and i was calling for stun nerf before anyone else.

Its better to phrase it like this i give my feedback on a monster and suggestion to make it viable

Maybe devd should add more monsters with switch freind move to support her

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ohhh. I thought you liked that. last season during our fight you literally let jurlunger (or doomhoof I don’t remember) and katt to make a copy of dualdragon just to presumably have the opportunity to stun the two monsters who had lost stun immunity

I think it is one of the few mythics that came out right the first time

Switch friends is a lost of tempo move if used on a non roaring entrance monster. You be spending 130 tu on switch friends + the time for the monster to gain a turn around 50 tu so your looking at 180 tu.

If it was the old shocking entrance if i remember correctly it was around 160 or 180 stun that can be chained. Then it would be a viable option.

Personally i would prefer if it didnt have stun in the first place, many players are running stun counters and stun revenge absorbers

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I was testing her, see how she would play out.

She would enter stun everything for 100 seconds assuming all monsters got stunned.

She would gain a turn after 58 tu, here you have two options kill two monsters with double stealthbane or copy something.

If you copy something that is lower than 70% speed then that monster would come behind all opponents monsters thus causing you to lose the tempo (turn).

So you are looking to copy something that either has roaring entrance, or high speed

Is it ATDAN by any chance?

Nah. That guy is way too busy.

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I figured…, the hunt continues

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