You know the best monsers will be used.
BB and black peng will definitely be used by everyone who has them.
Not saying that there arenât some horrible teams out there that can be created, but reading your idea for a FL it doesnât sound too dangerous. Assuming there is no counter (Cyclo, OoO, Drako, etc) then you do AoE, detox blast [everything dies], AoE on the new monsters and Angelion will get a turn before the other personâs monsters do. However, itâs unlikely Banedragon will get a turn before the opponentâs monsters and you are left with 3 monsters on high-ish TU. They only need to kill your Angelion then you have a stunnable team. Even if they donât manage to stun you, the monsters youâre left with (Bane, NR, Abyss) are ones that are very easy to leave alive while they kill the 4th monster in your team over and over because those three are not very threatening.
I think if that FL was used against top teams youâll get the occasional easy win but lots would make a good comeback and beat it.
Iâm so tired of your âagainst top bracketâ / against top playersâ argument, you bring it up every single time and I donât what this should tell me. Iâm playing this game since the End of 2015, Ive been able to keep up with the best players of the game over all the years and Iâve been a part of the clan that basically was a club of the pvp top 10-15 for months. Ive finished Rank 34 last pvp and could have gotten higher easily if I would have had the time to play more matches. Itâs not like iâm Writing down a team idea and I have no Idea how it will compete against âthe top bracketâ how you used to call it. So yeah lets assume youâre losing 5 monsters with bane not getting a turn in time (which is very unlikely from my experience and testing but hey, youâre the guide writing super expert). Thatâs half of your team. You can try to kill my monsters one after the other but as I said if those are DR Monsters, you wonât have a fun time doing it. And by the way. Leading by 5 monsters should be an advantage that every top bracket player knows to use for his advantage. Of course there are counters (actually many of them). My Intention wasnât to say: Oh look, thatâs the OP team nobodyâs going to beat, all I wanted to say is that Iâm very happy the meta shifted away from frontline dominance. But in a 10 Monsters pvp competition its very likely frontline dominance will be very important again which is something I donât personally like to see
I didnât mean any personal offence. When I read your original post I couldnât tell if you were saying âthis FL is unbeatableâ or just suggesting a strong one that becomes a bit too good in a 10 monster team. Your statement âonly problem is cyclozarâ made me think maybe you were thinking it lacked counters. I wasnât going to reply but when I got drawn back to the thread a couple of times by other people posting I decided Iâd weigh in and say how I think it has a few more counters and how it opens you up a bit too much for the enemy team to make a comeback. The âin the top bracketâ thing was just to stop anyone coming in and saying âbut how could I ever do that because I donât have all the monsters you guys doâ, which people always seem to do if I donât write the disclaimer of top bracket.
Iâm sorry for winding you up with my post, please donât get the wrong idea about me. I am totally with you in that a 5 monster lead is one of the best things you can go for in 10 monster PvP and that there are a number of monsters / combos which stand out a lot more when there are only 10 monsters, making it a little unbalanced compared to 16 monster PvP.
Ban pengunator !
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No you just gotta lead with 8 monsters whenpeng hits slayerbane all. Itâs completely fair as you can see
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Oh piece of cake then !
Sorry If I sounded too aggressive or rude. Cyclo was the obvious counter because he would just kill abyss and then the whole frontline canât do much thatâs why I pointed him out. Of course there are several other counters too. Iâm with you when weâre talking about the other points. I think we will see a lot of BBs, OoO and Frostmoroz Frontlines. Frost could really rise up again because people will focus more on combos and not so much on pure âdestructionâ frontlines as I call them like Shadowwyrm, cyclo, Dolph and galve would be one
Why everyone think this event will be different? Its gonna be the same as always. Most teams uses a 16 team with a synced start game and a sync end game, while the middle is about entrance control / momentum breaking / taking control. For 10 cost, you gonna see excatly the same fronts (or start games if you take thr first 5-7 spots), while the end game will be a combination of the normal end game strategies with the mids - taking control and break momentum with fast and big kills (fast monsters like roaring ones, momentum breaking monsters like peng and gazer, etc). People will just skip the middle part which usually involve a slow wall building for the end (geo, drako, shiva, etc). wont be that big of a change.
No worries, you got into lecturing and I realised I mustâve said something wrong! I was thinking lots last night about what people may be thinking about doing this next PvP and after a while decided I have no idea what we might see⌠Iâll just wait and have a look over the first week or two what people come up with. Iâm not going with anything nuts or cruel myself, but I may be inspired later on to see what âdestructionâ I can cause.
I think youâre probably right iSegal. I had similar thoughts last night but decided that what Iâm going to try out is ignoring the end-game strats and instead do front and mid or do one cohesive strategy. Itâll be fun to see if it works.
Yeah, I but I should have read my text again after a 5 minute break, calming downs and then should have come to the conclusion that my post indeed couldâve sounded like âdespite cyclo this frontline is unbeatableâ when I clearly wanted to bring the point of the frontline dominated matches across with this frontline just being an example.
I think I will go with what Iâd really love to go with first. Itâs something that doesnât really work in the current 16 monsters meta but maybe this time it stands a chance.
ROFL I change my opinion.
This 10v10 sucks hard⌠But extremely funny as wellâŚ
And match is hardly 1 minuteâŚboooooooohoooooooo for this special rule !
And you need you change your team(remove that flareven)
Ye Iâm experimenting.
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im enjoying the pace of it for sure
Im glad that they bring special rules to pvp back !
I enjoyed so far as well the special pvp.
⢠Short matches -> less grind needed. In the past events it takes so much time to spend all his 12 tickets if you have decent battles.
⢠rotation of standard pvp tactics bringing people out of their comfort zone to think about a new strategy or shorten their old ones.
⢠for people with less legendaries they can use their best ones without filling their team with B class monsters
Keep it up devs. I guess a stun immune or posion event might be interesting as well like the occult event
No protectors pvp anyone?