Tbh 40% against ever monster is still good , that’s almost 2 a time probability wise, at the moment it feels like hes 65 or 70%
Stun pulse?
I always battle in over 600. SS teams that are so badly disturbed by the stun pulse are almost not.
Most SS teams have a stun absorber. How can the counter of the SS used by many people be a stun pulse?
It is more surprising to play at over 600 without a stun absorber.
i agree, you’ll rarely see him open to stuns he’s always protected
I’m not saying SS sleep all should be 50-60%. Just that atm the accuracy is this, which is reasonable.
Well, Robin can scare you away from doing that, although the Chocolate guy solves that problem.
Gearcroc and 4star auto protector can prevent assasinate. And can Robin make SS the hold ground in one shot?
I’ve rarely come across Robin fl recently, not many people other than ss users seem to run protectors anymore
stop crying about SS man
Evrry monster which is powerful doesnt mean its OP
I got a SS and habe to say the Chance of getting sleep really feels like 45-55%
And i cant feel a difference between SS sleep all oder Ragna/Deucl sleep all
my sleep all does very often hit no monster when i use Sleep all
and if you want to counter it: Kamiwyrm, Abyss, Robi, Zib + Canibalize, DireDemon + epic 1on1, …
enough possibilities to kill it before 300seconds are over
I have to say it seems like he hits much more consistently than the other sleep alls, maybe I’m getting unlucky but that’s how it seems like to me
okay well thats discussable
At my Point i can say that i can’t feel a difference between the other sleep all
(I ran a long time Ragna + SS in my FL)
Youre Probably some times very unlucky
And I see much more SS than other sleep all monsters - It just feels like that SS has a high chance because you only face against SS?
I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m just unlucky, as for other sleep alls I only really go against ss or shinobi and ss seems a lot more accurate out of the 2, I just try to focus him down, if there’s no auto protect on the field he’s gone before his first turn thanks to my twinkillers legends
As someone who has faced SS many times and who is using SS since this event I can say that there are enough counters to any SS FLs, there are a lot other monsters that have no or let’s say little counter
ohh I’m not saying there aren’t, I’m simply discussing the encounters with ss on my part, my FL is built now to counter him seeing as he seems to be the main fl I face at 550 to 600 points
Always hits, more than not 2 or more monsters every time
glad it’s not just me 
Ss is crazy good. Not sure if I agree nerfing him, but he smokes me in pvp
Thank god i have bane usually SS teams give up agains me but once or twice SS put all my FL to sleep in 1 hit lol you all know what happens next
You’re looking at this move the wrong way. No reasonable person would base their entire strategy around the expectation that SS will nail all 4 opponents in one round, that’s absolutely ridiculous. What they do base it around is being able to severely and effortlessly incapacitate the other team by rendering most of them unable to do anything. Which SS can do without even trying. Assuming sleep all is indeed 40%, it will on average hit two opponents every time. Just think about that- a solid half of the enemy lineup totally inert, leaving the other two hapless mons to face SS’s entire crew all by themselves. Even having one monster taken out of commission can hit you like a truck, especially if it’s your most vital monster or at least the only one that could’ve stopped them. That’s a pretty damn big advantage to be given for a 130 TU move at 65 speed, don’t you think? Plus, that’s assuming ONE use of the move. We haven’t even considered the inevitable accompanying Midasdragon and TT, who will give him three or even four additional shots at it. The odds of any enemy monster staying awake after that are not terribly high. And you think this guy’s success rate should be raised? I don’t think you have nearly enough experience with being sleep locked.
Lol, I never said his success rate should be increased. You read my posts incorrectly.
I’m just stating that 40% is too low to be its current sleep accuracy. Also, 40% accuracy statistically should be between 1-2 mons. Now, that’s not what happens with most SS or this topic wouldn’t even exist.
Throwing in TT/Midas is pointless because the point is that SS doesn’t need them to hit most mons with sleep all the first time round, 99% of the time.
Then again…solflare sleep revenge is 40% which is as annoying as SS. But tbh i don’t care anymore.
Being sleep locked is a rite of passage. You don’t fear it until you’ve experienced it first hand. In its current state i’m more scared of midgame SS than goldtail.
SS is a joke. Heros just kept hitting me with sleep alls and non stop sleep locking me at start of the Match. The thing is if you use sleep it should be a risk but there is no risk really using sleep all with soulstealer because it’s so accurate.