Should the devs repeat OM?

Nearly every problem brought up on this page is solved by how I described the “archive.”

  1. You aren’t guaranteed the final fusion/ark at the end of the mission - it’s a modified chance at getting it.

  2. There are no golden or mission eggs.

  3. You can’t repeat if you already have said ark (the idea is you’re only supposed to get one without buying a crap load of eggs, anyways, 2 if you got it in the ORIGINAL OM and with the egg). This solves the timing issue.

  4. They aren’t released into the wild.

  5. Everybody has a chance.

  6. You only get to attempt once or twice per week at a SINGLE ark, meaning you will take quite a but to get them all, even if lucky.

  7. This will encourage people to play longer.

  8. It will even out PvP (eventually).

  9. Did I miss anything else?

crystal well said I have to agree with you, u make perfect sense although I am confused on #6 can u explain it better?

The way I envision it is so that even though they’d all be available, you’d only get to attempt one OM per week (without paying any tickets). Now, even if you don’t get the ark on your first attempt, you cannot try again until the next week (e.g. Sunday at 0000 GMT). I also previously stated that you aren’t guaranteed to get the ark – you get a 30-50% chance of the final fusion or the ark itself. It can be lower, it can be higher. This means you aren’t guaranteed to get the ark on your first try, leading to where I brought in point number 6. You’ll have to try again if you don’t, but still want the ark. (You shouldn’t be able to get the fusion arks again except for the final boss after your first attempt, similarly to the ID where the bosses don’t reappear, except on the last floor for this you’d need it to if you hadn’t won the ark on a previous attempt).

I disagree with the 1st one. You should get said ark for completing it but you can only try an archive mission once a week.

Or you can do it as many times as you want during the week but you aren’t guaranteed it.

And you can only try one archive mission a week. And this weeks OM.

The problem with it being guaranteed is essentially the same as having the ark release in the wild – everyone will have it sooner than later.

Only allowing one attempt and not guaranteeing it still leaves the ark to be more “exclusive,” which it should be to those who played the game earlier on.

Okay. Here’s my logic behind not being guaranteed the ark.

How many of you are actually thinking of those who have the arks already? How many are actually realizing that if everybody had every ark, the point of some of them being more “exclusive” than the other would be lost? And how many are thinking about the point of the OM was to only give the ark to a few so that they wouldn’t be everywhere?

Those who have the ark (for the most part) probably don’t want the OM’s repeated. They’d like to keep the ark as an advantage, because they started playing before others. This is totally both fair and logical. If they started before you, why shouldn’t they get an advantage?

If you want to guarantee the ark, why not just release it in the wild? There’s no point in repeating OM’s or the archive that I proposed if you’re simply guaranteed the ark, let alone getting to play as often as you’d like each week even if not “guaranteed.” If you can repeat is as much as you want, you’re going to still get it in less than a week, most likely. The point is that these arks should be hard to obtain for those who didn’t get it from the original OM. They aren’t just handouts for everyone to have. They’re something you should work for so that you can have it, not something you should be guaranteed on the first go. Eventually, everyone will have all of them anyways. You don’t want a massive influx of any of them in a single week, do you? The balance in PvP would go crazy and everybody would start to use the same arks, because let’s face it – some are much, much better than others, even if there is a counter to it.

Not being guaranteed the ark and only having one attempt per week will still reward some while others will have to try again. This way, you at least have the opportunity to obtain it and can’t complain that it’s unobtainable, but then the older members can’t complain that everybody has it right away, either.

It’s a simple compromise, really.

well I disagree with that now that u explained it because if the devs repeat the OM the same way they did it the first round (not saying they will) but it will guarantee us an ark cuz for the past OMs it gave us one less fusion ark then what was required so if they give us that the second time we r guaranteed an OM ark because all we need is one more. and if they give us eggs every other floor like they did in the very beginning then we have a good chance at getting it.

For example: 4 Horrorfish out of 5, 30 floors, and 15 eggs (if given every other floor like before in the 1st season. that = 1/15 probability that u will get the last ark that u need.

But if you do it your way and release the arks in the wild then that would be less likely to get it because more than likely they will set the find rate as a hatchling which is 1/200.

As u can see these ratios differ greatly and it would be easier for the devs. This is because they will need a content update to release in the wild but u don’t need that in order to repeat the OMs because they already have them set up and all they’d need to do is modify the OM and rerelease it.

So personally I think the devs should repeat them for now for the new players and then eventually when a majority of the players have the arks then release it in the wild. They will eventually be released in the wild anyways in the content updates but since we r waiting for the bug fix update still and if my knowledge is right then content updates take a lot longer. So y not just repeat them to get them out of the way and make all the players happy?

Happy players = less pressure on the devs = quicker update releases = happy everyone 

I never said release them in the wild :expressionless:

You didn’t read either of my posts carefully if you think I am FOR releasing them in the wild.

I did agree with you because people can only use 15 arks in a PvP so after a little while people will have to start choosing which ones work best for them ;:wink:
Disagree not agree ughhh
Disagree not did agree. I despise auto correct -_-
It would create a greater diversity for people because not all will be using in game arks because they can’t achieve the OM egg spins and for people with OM they won’t be using the same ones as another person because all will have more. I am an ark collector and want them all. At this rate it’ll take years so I believe there should be other means or more direct means of obtaining the arks from OM

Stormthunder HAS a GREAT idea!!! It’d also create diversity!!! Maybe be able to select from 3 different ark OM a week. Except on the first week due to season names!!!
Only 1 of the 3 a week though. Not 3 OM arks in a week

wait I am sorta confused can u explain that better? @jessekeel

@crystal I read them carefully btw I am just saying in general when I said “your way” I meant the players who are FOR it

Ohhh, sorry! My bad!

lol it is ok sorry too I shoulda been more specific

Yes I definitely agree with doing the OMs again but you could give them a higher difficulty setting than what they were like back then, so it would mean that players could devote more time into getting these arks than previously done before. Like make it 100 floors and checkpoints would be every 20 floors to give the players more of a challenge. However, the OM arks don’t necessarily need to be repeated via OMs. I would say a better way is to archive them like crystal said but in a tournament instead of an archive of OMs. Thus you could make 2 separate sections for the tournaments: the original tournaments and then the OM ark tournaments. However, it could go like this: you can’t participate in an OM ark tournament unless you’ve completed the original set of tournaments that were implemented in the game beforehand and you can only do one OM tournament per week. So basically for the actual tournaments themselves they could include the recipe and the ingredients as prizes but you can only get them one battle after another and the difficulty will increase one battle after another in the tournament too. I also thought you could include a ranking system in this as well. Say for example you must complete the shadowstalker tournament before you can do the destructor tournament etc. so tell me what you think of this idea? This is kind if an expansion from what I said on page 1 or 2 I believe

cj u did as I suggested yayayay :smiley:

What if they are just rewarded after every 50 floors in ID?  Rather than a gold egg, you get one of the past arks.  The more you dedicate to ID (_i.e., _the more you play the game) the more OM arks you can obtain.

Maybe every 100 floors

There is a problem with that logic, as in for some people, it may not ever be possible to get far enough to acquire all the arks.

It’s similar to farming for hatchlings…it takes time and dedication.  Given the nature of these arks, perhaps they should be tougher to acquire?  Those that really want it will farm a strong team and keep playing the game.

Another idea could be have them as pvp rewards but have two sets. So still have the ones we have now as in you win diamonds to unlock them but you could make the old OM arks as prizes for wins say like every 100 wins you get a fusion or something along them lines. Will give people more reason to play pvp

@crystal people will eventually get all the OMs the way cj said because in ID ur arks level up fairly quickly and so they will be able to battle and win (most likely) but it would only work if youre dedicated. but I see wat ur saying too.

but if I know anything about you (crystal) you would be one of the people to get them in the first day/week :stuck_out_tongue: :wink: