zib and gazer combos are disgusting am 0% win rate vs it
Hello everyone,
I don’t think any of us have encountered this combination yet, so just to make sure we’re on the same page, could somebody please explain how such a frontline would work? Is the problem that Deathgazer’s entrance ability allows Ziberius to use Double Retribution in rapid succession? Or is it Ziberius using cannibalize on a poison revenge monster and then Deathgazer using Poison Chain? I’ll definitely get the team to take another look at those two monsters, along with Faststrike.
the real problem is gazer enterance and that cannibalize triggers what ever revage which enables for more combos.
The typical first couple moves looks like this:
Ziberius cannibalizes a poison revenge.
Deathgazer comes in.
Terrordragon uses poison massecre
Ziberius uses double retribution
Deathgazer poison storms
Terrordragon uses poison massecre again.
Leogeist sits there and absorbs all stuns preventing any retaliation.
. . . Or something like this anyway. Not sure if the turn order is exact.
While either strategy is powerful like this, The real problem is the combination of the two.
Fast strike doesn’t need a huge nerf, but it shouldn’t 1-shot everything at 50 seconds or lower.
Yeah i recognized.
You were a bit lucky in egg opening hah?^^
Zib, leo, terror, gazer, bane, mecha, flavern, tiamazus
The ultimate frontline followed by an op poison team.
I am a lil bit jealous^^
And as i saw from your vids, you also got a pretty nasty sleep team
Also motordragon, kami, emeraldeus, atrahasis, bovolcus.
A lucky dude^^
He has spent a lot. . .
The current frontline I’m using is Breezekite ( 1 cost poison revenge ) , Ziberius , Terrordragon, Leogeist. Deathgazer on 5
Combination works as follows >
Crescendo strike Leo,
ziberius cannibalises poison revenge whole enemy team is poisoned -> deathgazer comes in
My team is pulled forward ziberius cause he is +9 will be around 58 seconds deathgazer around 33. Leo is first to go however ->
If something like aegis is in the way I can thunder all. If not just use crescendo blast on a target terror might not kill.
Then Terrordragon poison massacre ( puts him at 100 TU )
Since terror kills all 4 if one of them is stun revenge my Leo takes turn - if not there is always at Least a stun entrance in the next 4 it’s very rare that it doesn’t happen.
Leo can blast or thunder all or do anything again what I need at the time.
I use poison touch with gazer which puts him near Terrordragon ( remember gazer at 33 terror at 100 so terror is at 67 - one poison touch pute him in close proximity to terror.
Ziberius is up next to double ret and take another two down triggering extra stuns so Leo can attack once more. If I get all mons cleared to Deathgazer I can poison storm into poison massacre again with terror.
Adding all up we are speaking 10-12 kills with rarely any counterplay. It does not work every time that I take down 10-12 off the opener but a minimum of 6 is pretty common.
I know I thought this through very well and the legendary combination is rare to have but its abysmally strong.
Currently I’m at 52 wins and 2 losses ( 1 to another deathgazer + ziberius and nightrider desperate all abuse because my ziberius was slower so he could bring deathgazer in first ) and one to someone that used a death roulette with ziberius and got lucky.
EDIT: more general though because Ziberius is 81% speed and has Canibalize he can make deathgazer force enter the field.
If you setup for example: Legendary teamturner Serazael nightrider Ziberius.
Ziberius canibalized himself brings in gazer pulls night sera and legend TT forward > survivor > flip > Teamturn > triple desperate all.
You can wipe any team who doesn’t run stunners in the frontline like galvbane or galiodragon.
Personally I think deathgazer his passive was a mistake. You guys should stop thinking about monsters with team turn and give turn moves or anything based around that kind of thing.
It’s hard for me to understand too because I just pointed out to you that two legendary teamturners a super epic TT and something like shadowwyrm felt oppressive. You agreed and did something about it only to add a monster with a Teamturn entrance pretty much.
Actually he’s right I had disgustingly good luck the past two months not spending a cent. I stopped when Leo his encore egg aired after not getting him - got him on the last day with free gems handed out by the devs for some bug.
Bolv I got on the first roll.
Bane I got from rare egg, terror from rare egg, Emerald rare egg.
Gazer on second egg when his special egg aired.
The rest is from before. Not sure about Mecha probably before Leo too
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Yeah, unexpected 100 s massacre doing 1OHKO 
Raped by lendren because of taat
I see, that makes sense. You have a very well-thought out and beautiful strategy there, I’m quite impressed! It’s unfortunate that it is too dominating…
Its guaranteed 8 monster if deathrevenge didnt touch terror or gazer, silly lol
10 monster.
Ban terror dragon from pvp. That’s the simplest solution.
I refuse to participate in anymore pvp events in this game. The balance is so off its a waste of my time. Whoevers came up with and approved the ideas of deathgayzer and moves like timestrike all shouldn’t be listened to anymore.
I’ll keep playing other missions but the pvp is a waste of my time. I either completely annihilate the other team or get annihilated. It’s not fun.
As for suggestions I don’t even know where to begin. There is a lot that needs fixing.
(I’ve been playing since day one when I brought my first legendary from hunter island).
terror dragon is fine as it is
The problem is the game breaking team turn entrance being able to be brought in immediately by zib, having your front line go first no matter what team you run will give you a huge advantage
Im crying too see new player with unevolved Legend and rape me:joy:
What? Everyone has one… I use it in one of my strategys. It’s so overpowered. Especially for a 5 star. Too strong for pvp.
My suggestion would be to make it nearly impossible to one shot a legendary except for in special scenarios. Let us actually pvp instead of just blowing eachother up.
It’s like playing halo or any fps game using all rocket launchers. Or grand theft auto with cheats.
Sure it’s fun for a couple minutes but quickly gets boring and or frustrating
Nothing wrong with PVP now…i met the death gazer team before and manage to waste it a few times…maybe i met the crap death gazer team but then i dun care…u either wins or lose, it is only a game…beside it is all about using the right combo monsters…><"
Though would be nice if developers would prevent people from rage quitting…at least let half the team dies before allowing one party to quit especially when it takes so long to get one ticket…><"
“You either win or lose its only a game” is a dumb thing to say here. You whole comment loses credibility to me. The only point your comment made anyway was that pvp is fine and you are wrong about that. Every other player will disagree with you.
It is SERIOUSLY just a game…what’s the point of getting so work up and calling people dumb to say that…if only moderators here could control the language use here…If u are going to nerf every single monster here who appears to be OP, there will be a lot of top players quitting…i don’t see myself quitting even though my cosmo dragon suxs as a legendary…life goes on and i still carry on playing the game with a different set of monsters…><"
I agree with him. Pvp is fine right now. The pacing of the game is good with a clear beginning, middle, and end and it doesn’t take 20 mins a fight. The simplest way to not get blown up is to counterplay and predict what the opponent will do. I can predict what almost all of my opponents can do. When they do something else, then they are giving me the advantage because what they do is less effective then what I think they will do.
Also, just because someone has a different opinion doesn’t mean they are “wrong”. It just means that you disagree. Personal attacks detract from an argument and make the place less civilized.
What he means is that he doesn’t get bent out of shape, because it is only a game. Your comment actually adds less to the discussion then his comment does because all it contains is you telling him what his comment says, that his opinion is “wrong”, and then personally attacking him. No need to be a hypocrite.