In that case, I’ll write one out within a day or so. I’ll no doubt be controversial, but that’s the main point of those posts.
You really gotta put Dracorosa as S+.
I can tell you it has done wonders for my team. As good if not better than Tygron.
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I love meeting draco because i run no poison and barely any fire types 
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Dracorosa still has purifying mist with Hold ground and stun immunity. Also his secret might still dangerous for you if someone wanted to tech in one of the rose sisters. Also you can just last hit a monster with draco and have double blood move ready to sweep. Dracorosa is pretty much mandotory in every team who has a free spot imo.
You got any hold ground monsters? I like using them to charge him
I’ve been incredibly hesitant to put Dracorosa up into S+, but it’s hard to justify why. Earlier in this thread I wrote it’s because I think he’d be on the lower end of S+ so I’d rather keep as few S+ monsters as possible (hence he is top of S). In reality, he gives you practically everything you want in PvP and even in worst case scenarios a stun immune + HG monster spamming purifying mist that might grab a kill at some point (HG monster) then can double sweep is still amazingly good. For PvP he’s textbook S+ tbh, like Guesswhosback said.
Another monster I need to shift is Triviathan, who is still S tier because I accidentally forgot to move him last update. Trivia is a pretty strong sweeper with a number of combos but hasn’t seen much popularity and isn’t the most reliable monster. He’s more liks A tier I think.
Scanning through some more…
Hellfox A+ -> A
Shivadragon A+ -> B+ (still love this guy but with more piercing coming to the game I think he’s heading for B+)
Azrazel A -> B (changed from B+ after reading Guesswhosback comment below)
Gloreonix A -> B+
Maggatsuoh A -> A+
Centaureon B+ -> A+
I will make all these changes in the next update.
Ooh I would keep hellfox A+
Can’t think of anything but capy on top of my head, but dracorosa can’t deal with capy quite properly
Edit: tardie, but he has thick skin. I can’t remember ever being hit by dracos double bloodcrave.
Your team counters everything
What reasons would you give? Besides some pretty good combos I have a hard time comparing Hellfox to other monsters in the A+ tier.
Capybaragon counters A LOT of things out there. He’s a big annoyance to deal with.
The best draco i met was someone certain who used voodoom to give me defang food
Talking about @Killerdog
Agreed; people slept on Capy when it was first debuted, but it was the second best thing I pulled from that banner, with the gold going to my lady of course. Between its respectable bulk, its versatile moveset and a secret still that’s pretty damn handy, I think it could go up a place.
Seems that we think alike when it comes to tier changes, though there are a few small differences here and there.
Shivadragon: Even though all the piercing weakens some of its utility, it still serves as a surprisingly powerful sweeper with how easy it can be to set it up, provided you have a protector or two. The lack of a blood move works in its favor as players are more likely to leave it alone in favor of more aggressive monsters, at least from what I recall seeing in PvP. B+ seems a bit harsh, so I’d put it at A.
Triviathan: The lack of popularity could be due to the fact that not many people have the monster, at least to my knowledge. I’d put it at A+ because in a LINK water team, it can utterly clean house, especially when paired with Tardie and Kaerukenshi. I do agree with you in that it can be a bit troublesome to put into a team, hence why it could be on the lower half of A+
Wraithhost: This cute little fella’s been mentioned in these tier changes a fair bit, and as much as it pains me, I agree in that it should be lowered to B. It’s not bad, given that it has a multitude of options to sweep, but it is very easy to control how much HP it has, rendering it a dead mon for most of the battle, much like with Prismpaw.
Gloreonix: The last of the monsters I’ll be talking about for now, and arguably my most controversial opinion of the four. It is one of the most underwhelming of the limited legends in my opinion, and could stand to gain a small buff or two. On paper it looks nice, what with it being an easy to set up sweeper, however there are far better options when it comes to stun monsters. I have never seen anyone use this in PvP, at least in my bracket, and I saw a couple Prismpaws, not even joking. My ideal tier for it would be B or even C+
That’s all for now, I’ll do a full analysis in the near future.
Capybaragon is a monster I’ve always appreciated but the fact of the matter is it doesn’t do anything exceptionally. It’s versatile and it basically makes a strong team work but doesn’t do enough itself at any given thing. I felt like A was a nice tier for it, given that for a lot of players it’s a good monster but when it comes to top level PvP where players will utilise it fully to create very strong line-ups it performs a lot better. That’s similar to Regalion which is in A tier. A few of the monsters in B+ and A tiers come under this category where they are exactly what you want in some teams at the top level but are not quite so strong overall. I have always kept the note “anything B+ or above may be as good as an S+ monster in the right team or in the right situation”.
I might shift Capy to A+ in the long run, because I do love these versatile monsters which you put around strong monsters to make the team work brilliantly. I think it’s a big part of what makes top PvP teams the top teams… adding in these versatile monsters to allow the player to adapt their game plan as the battle progresses and to help make the other bits of the team work. Nulltron and Novadrake are some of my personal favourites for that.
His rebirth is amazing. Payback revenge is very annoying. Double retribution hammers some very dangerous legends like Draco, oak, capy and others. He is a monster that can turn the game with rebirth and is troublesome as soon as he enters cuz of revenge and ret.
@Lemonsqueezy uses hellfox very well. A has screwed me up a few times with that rebirth.
I like what Hellfox has to offer but 160TU double retribution that doesn’t one-shot enough things on a body that is asking to be disabled (no immunity to anything + payback revenge) isn’t what you want a lot of the time. Couple that with the fact it’s often countered by stealth (which is becoming increasingly common) and struggles against shields because double retribution is a big investment (one-time use until another teammate dies, 160TU). I can’t imagine it doing enough most of the time. Rebirth is great but takes some building around and Hellfox needs a kill first, which often means being sat on the field for quite a long time without dying. I love the monster and the design is cool, but I don’t think it’s quite A+ tier any more considering the way the game has been developing.
Naaa. Hellfox passive is what keeps it on the field. Stick a protector after it and job done. It usually gets the double retribution. Also you have 3 other monsters to use that can easily deal with stealth.
Not many players run payback Killer, so it’s likely to get 1 kill atleast. Usually 3 with double Ret (or at least to hold ground) rebirth completely turns the tide of the game. Very few monsters survive the double retribution. I know Angel is one of them; so sor the reasons you mention KD maybe it shouldn’t be S but A+ I think it thoroughly deserves.
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@Phantom00 Just seen your edit to include your opinions on those monsters.
Shivadragon: I wanted to put it A tier too, but decided to push it one lower because I think as time goes on it will continue to get weaker. If in the future it looks better than B+ I can move it back up but B+ is probably the long-term position.
Triviathan: You said it… lower half of A+. People seem to love link water on this forum right now but I don’t think it’s a reason to push something higher just because it’s a link water monster. The link monsters in the tier list are often a tier or two below their true position because clearly they are much better when used in a link team. Triviathan is obviously up there as more like S tier in a link water team.
Wraithhost: You want this B, in the realms of monsters like Galliodragon?? No, sorry this is B+ tier. It has a lot more to offer than B tier monsters, it’s not all about the confident strike.
Gloreonix: Many hate this monster and I can see why, but I think it’s better than it looks. It fits very nicely into link holy control teams with stunning entrance, an instant pull back and the 100TU bloodcrave. I don’t think the SS has any real use but it sweeps pretty quickly and single target sweeping gives you great control, which is where this monster fits in anyway. Unfortunately this monster is basically a weaker Malwing, but Malwing is S+ so that’s no surprise. I put this monster on the lower end of A originally and intended to move it down later, which I never did.
I agree and it definitely gets a good double retribution off almost all the time. However, a lot of the time I don’t think it will do much more and simply put: the other A+ monsters do more. I like the monster and have had it A+ for a long time but I think it needs to go down. We have to split the monsters across the tiers even if it seems a shame to have some away from the top.
Btw are you gonna update rexotyrant and ultima? I don’t think they deserve to be C and C+
Rexotyrant having bloodfury, high damage stats, immunty to poison, and a fast enough speed that kills most monsters with swift chrono killer. Also he has sudden death which you can utilise if you feel like he is not much of a use and you know a monster with stunning or roaring entrance skill coming from your reinforcements.
Ultimatdragon doesn’t really need an explanation but his secret skill allows him to be used in the front line and also get closer to his bloodthirst. Not to mention, he is stun immune but also has desth revenge so don’t want to touch him unless you are ready with a shield or payback killer.
Rexotyrant deserves at least A and so does ultima IMO.
A LOT of chrono monsters have hold ground or high defence, hence the SS on Rexotyrant struggles to get kills. Also, Rexo has no way to set up kills and has low defence so can always be killed off by the opponent if they need to remove him. 130TU single sweeping is not enough to carry him. He’s a relic of the past.
Ultimadragon takes way too long to set up and doesn’t do enough until then. The SS offers some nice versatility (which people have gone on about to me numerous times in the past) but ultimately this monster just doesn’t work well once you get to the higher brackets of PvP. Repulse and knockback are incredibly good skills which I think should be included in all the best teams. Monsters like Ultima which are very weak to repulse do poorly because of that.
I know it’s not all about Confident Strike; hence why smart players know to put it at mid-health so that it can’t got for a Desperate Bite. Truth be told, I didn’t want to give it B, but with how easy it is to exploit, it can be a detriment at times.
Asides from that, I see where you’re coming from with the other three.